How accurate do you strive to be?

I'm with superbrad on this one Conor

A hundred yards with iron sites shooting off hand is good
150 yards With peep sight is decent
The main thing is you know how fare you can realistically shot at and a 100 yards off hand is still a long ways or at least it is for me
Not very often I have to make a 100+ yard shot
i know my 100 yard game is solid and that is wear I try to keep my shoots under a 100 yards
 
A long time at guessing distances is a great help in hitting game. An experienced eye automatically adds some needed Kentucky elevation as distance increases. Its just natural to hold up as distance increases. My Dad, while not a shooter or hunter, was mighty slick at saying how many acres in a parcel, or how many rods it was, at four for 66 feet, the width of a road allowance, or how far was that spot about halfway across a quarter section. When I was ten years old we would play distance guessing games as we walked across the country side.
 
conor_90 said:
This winter I have almost exclusively been shooting iron sighted rimfire offhand at 50m's at 8 inch paper plates. Results have gone from embarrassing to acceptable. Seems easy, but I have seen a few people who have "given it a shot" fail miserably.

I dream of being able to repeatedly shoot accurately at 200 meters with an iron sighted rifle. My consistency seems to fall apart after 150 meters with aperture sights and 100 meters with irons.
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Me too - good job keep at it. 100 with irons work is great. Where is Brobee - he would agree with all practice and his hunter marksman challenge is the bar (use the rifle, action, optics and calibre of your choice to practice...then repeat with your go to).
 
Realistic practice for me used to be 100yrds from at rest. Now realistic practice is 6" steel gong @ 200 yrds
5 rounds/1 mag or clip
(Oh boy now I did it) clip/mag call it what you like.

2 shots prone, 2 kneeling and 1 standing off hand.

The 2 prone =no problem, the 2 kneeling =no problem, the 1 offhand = problem ( 1 hit for every 3 attempts)
Conclusion 1) less coffee I shoot better.....2) more practice offhand
 
Dogleg said:
Sounds like Jeff Cooper :)

Something I liked about Cooper is his approach to problem solving. First he defined the problem then set about solving
it.

Problem #1

Placing good enough hits as fast as possible in the center of vitals of game animals before they bugger off, or the center of the visible portion of an enemy (btbo) , or changing the course of human history as needed at any reasonable range with an easily carried rifle.

Dang, the problem of rifle shooting seems to be hitting.

Thing is; even for a guy that thought shooting clay pigeons out of the air with a rifle
was a valid shooting lesson, the mechanical precision of the tool was way down the long list in importance,
if it made it at all.
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Yes, I'm a shameless plagiarist; its tough to argue with the logic though. As to the the validity of shooting straight away clays in the air with a rifle, 7/10 certainly qualifies for bragging rights. We have nothing but room up here, so I've tried it, with results even more dismal than my shotgun display last summer . . . of course you haven't seen fit to scope your scatterguns.
 
Boomer said:
Yes, I'm a shameless plagiarist; its tough to argue with the logic though. As to the the validity of shooting straight away clays in the air with a rifle, 7/10 certainly qualifies for bragging rights. We have nothing but room up here, so I've tried it, with results even more dismal than my shotgun display last summer . . . of course you haven't seen fit to scope your scatterguns.
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I thought you were hitting right well, just not smoking the first few but still hitting them. Borrowed shotguns can do that.

I think the point of Coopers straight away clay target shooting was to develope the abililty to get the shot off at a precise instant instead a prolonged squeeze with an unknown end.
 
Dogleg said:
I thought you were hitting right well, just not smoking the first few but still hitting them. Borrowed shotguns can do that.

I think the point of Coopers straight away clay target shooting was to develope the abililty to get the shot off at a precise instant instead a prolonged squeeze with an unknown end.
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Compressed break, at the moment the clay appears to hang motionless prior to its decent. Its a good trick, and I know a fellow who pulled it off on a flying goose . . . the goose would have been easier.
 
If a hunting rifle will shoot 1.5" or less 3-shot groups at 100 yds off sandbags it's plenty accurate for hunting.
That's my standard.
My last bolt was a ruger 77 mkII all-weather zytel stock model in 30-06 which would do that all day long with a leupold 3-9x40mm on top.
I had a crisp as corn flakes timney trigger in it set to 2.5 pounds which made all the difference in the world.
My son talked me out of that one now I'm looking for a replacement.
 
H4831 said:
A long time at guessing distances is a great help in hitting game. An experienced eye automatically adds some needed Kentucky elevation as distance increases. Its just natural to hold up as distance increases. My Dad, while not a shooter or hunter, was mighty slick at saying how many acres in a parcel, or how many rods it was, at four for 66 feet, the width of a road allowance, or how far was that spot about halfway across a quarter section. When I was ten years old we would play distance guessing games as we walked across the country side.
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My dad and I did the same thing... and in this locale I can estimate distance very accurately... BC kind of introduced a healthy dose of humility, the size of everything buggered up my internal perspective to the point where I was off by 200% on a few occasions... mostly on longer distance... my internal bowhunting rangefinder was still fairly reliable. I was forced to rely far more heavily on my rangfinder, a unit that I rarely use here at home.
 
Boomer said:
Compressed break, at the moment the clay appears to hang motionless prior to its decent. Its a good trick, and I know a fellow who pulled it off on a flying goose . . . the goose would have been easier.
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I once nailed a goose on the wing with a golf ball using an 8 iron... intentionally. They flew straight up the driving range (in season) and I happened to have just hit half a bucket with the 8 and knew the trajectory pretty well, so I teed one up, estimated their speed, allowed some lead and swung... SMACK... the goose spiraled out of the flock to the ground... I was jumping up and down and looking around for an audience to applaude... of course I was alone... who else would be hitting their own balls on a NorOnt driving-range at the end of October...
 
From an article on range estimation a number of years ago.
White tail hunter's yard was 11 inches long, mule deer - 17 inches, Varmint hunters - 37, and 35 inches for water fowl hunters.
On the 3-D archery course it proves interesting to have everyone guess then confirm with a range finder where permitted.
One up or down shots while the estimate may be close, where to hold becomes an issue for some to calculate.
There is still the view that you hold low when shooting down (correct) and high when shooting up (wrong).
 
As we all know.................regardless of uphill or downhill the only distance that matters to a bullet is the actual horizontal distance..........

I love shooting clays with a rifle.........it is a humbling experience, but damn good practice. Especially with a big bore for heavy game. It is also a great indicator of whether or not your rifle fits you.
 
Thrown clays? That's impressive. How consistently do you score hits?

c-fbmi said:
As we all know.................regardless of uphill or downhill the only distance that matters to a bullet is the actual horizontal distance..........

I love shooting clays with a rifle.........it is a humbling experience, but damn good practice. Especially with a big bore for heavy game. It is also a great indicator of whether or not your rifle fits you.
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c-fbmi said:
As we all know.................regardless of uphill or downhill the only distance that matters to a bullet is the actual horizontal distance..........

I love shooting clays with a rifle.........it is a humbling experience, but damn good practice. Especially with a big bore for heavy game. It is also a great indicator of whether or not your rifle fits you.
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Douglas, they are talking about launched clays... if you are too... that's pretty impressive.
 
Yep Hoyt.........I am aware of that...........Only had the opportunity a couple times and as mentioned the scores were humbling..........first round was 2 or 3 for 25, but the second time I think I got 5..........this was with irons on my first Sako Safari 375 with 270 gn Win power points. It all got started because I made a comment that the rifle fit me so well that I was sure I could shoot trap with it...........Used a ground thrower out in the middle of nowhere with a huge bank as a backstop at about 150 mtrs and a whole mountain behind it. I think I could have actually gotten into double digits if we hadn't run out of birds...........I was just getting a handle on the right sight picture.
However this wasn't the first time now that I think of it, my buddy and I did it a lot when I was middle teens with a hand thrower and our 22s.........we never got good but we always hit a few, enough to keep us trying anyway........
 
We used to do something like that ( but easier) at our old town dump with .22's and hand thrown bottles. Got so I could hit more than half. I'd like to try clays with a rifle.
 
Longwalker said:
We used to do something like that ( but easier) at our old town dump with .22's and hand thrown bottles. Got so I could hit more than half. I'd like to try clays with a rifle.
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I'd rather have daddy beat me with a willow switch while telling me how worthless I am...
 
You still aim lower on the a animal regardless shooting uphill and downhill. It had nothing so much to do with trajectory but the aspect and angle of target. Both uphill and downhill you need to visualize bullet path thru the target and vitals.
 
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