How accurate is your 858 with irons?

If I'm really grooving I can get about 2" (maybe 2.5) with Hornady SST. With the Ukrainian made Dominion NC ammo I average 3-4 inches or thereabout. I have an Aimpoint T1 on mine and that helps.

Honestly I think the system is pretty accurate, the issue is the trigger is not great for accurate shooting. But it's a fighting gun, not a precision system. So I don't care that much, it's for punching holes in paper and having a good time. OP your gun sounds too inaccurate though, maybe have a gunsmith look at it.
 
I tried it again with a target more suited for iron sights at medium range. groups tightened up a bit but nothing to brag about..

Can anyone else chime in with groupings they get with iron sights out of the CZ-858/VZ-58 with iron sights only?

Thanks!
 
Had my vz58 out for the first time today, was getting 4-5" groups at 100. Only problem I had was my front site must be to high. I had to jack the rear site to the 400m just to get on paper. Anyone know where to buy the site tool?

As crazy as it sounds I think I prefer my sks.
 
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Earlier this spring after Wolverine's sale. The Holosun would not stay tight on the VZ58 and I would get horizontal stringing. The Holosun now resides on a 10/22 and a clunky BSA red dot is showing the Holosun how it is done. The CZ858 was good to go from factory.
 
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Earlier this spring after Wolverine's sale. The Holosun would not stay tight on the VZ58 and I would get horizontal stringing. The Holosun now resides on a 10/22 and a clunky BSA red dot is showing the Holosun how it is done. The CZ858 was good to go from factory.
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Thanks for the photos! Was the VZ-58 on the right also at 100Y? If so I was getting similar groupings at 50Y, so mine has some serious accuracy issues. Although in my defense I could barely see the target past the post on my front sight. My target has a small orange diamond shape, next time i take it out I will use a target more suited to iron sights at longer range.
 
Nbhunt3r said:
Could try some different ammo and or get someone else to shoot it. Both easy to try before getting to crazy.
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I was shooting expensive Hornady ammo for those grouping. I was shooting off a bench at an indoor range. I will try again with a better target and post the results.
 
With irons on the "U" setting I have shot and killed a Caribou with my 2005 marked CZ858 using Winchester SP rounds at 315yds. That's good enough for me!
 
Tightest with my CZH2003 N/R was an average of 3" with irons at 100 yards with Hornady SSTs. It's all in the trigger. Steady pull. Coild do better if scoped. I was able to manage a consistent 2" with my 2.5 power scoped CSA. For what the gun is and the cartridge it fires that's not too bad.

It's all in how you shoot. I grew up on 30-06, .300 Win mag, .300 Weatherby mag, and .350 Rem mag rifles so my flinch is pretty much non-existent. 7.62 Soviet is a walk-in-the-park.
 
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4 moa. With irons. Minute of man up to 200. Beyond that it gets tricky. Its totally doable. I think it's unfamiliarity that is giving you issues. Not sure what you were expecting. The sights are no biathlon peeps.
 
r34skyline said:
4 moa. With irons. Minute of man up to 200. Beyond that it gets tricky. Its totally doable. I think it's unfamiliarity that is giving you issues. Not sure what you were expecting. The sights are no biathlon peeps.
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The sights aren't that bad. The Patridge type sight is only second to the peep/aperture/ghost ring sights... I know many learned to shoot on Lee-Enfield No.4s so it's tough to "down-grade" sight pictures. Non-the-less, accuracy can be accomplished.
 
IF I do my part, I can get the odd 3" group with Czech surplus ammo. Usually I get 4" to 5" groups. I've never run anything else through mine, so I can't tell you how good it does with better ammo. Mine has the 19" barrel so is non-restricted.

A longer sight radius usually means improved accuracy. OP, how long is the barrel on your 858?
 
There is a write up in the Battle rifle sections about shooting with iron sights. Might be worth a look.
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It appears that thread was not the one. Try using the edge of the front sight as your aiming point. It should help somewhat, allowing you to focus on the target to a greater degree of precision. Your choice of target should also be looked at. You want one with easily distinguishing marks to be a point of aim, preferably with sharp points rather than circles. At 4 MOA, the rifle will shoot a 12 inch square at 300m. More than accurate enough for plinking pleasure on a gong or target.
 
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Spo0nFED said:
There is a write up in the Battle rifle sections about shooting with iron sights. Might be worth a look.
-SPo0nFED
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It appears that thread was not the one. Try using the edge of the front sight as your aiming point. It should help somewhat, allowing you to focus on the target to a greater degree of precision. Your choice of target should also be looked at. You want one with easily distinguishing marks to be a point of aim, preferably with sharp points rather than circles. At 4 MOA, the rifle will shoot a 12 inch square at 300m. More than accurate enough for plinking pleasure on a gong or target.
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Thanks for the input, I was more wondering if you're shooting 6" at 50M for example, does it automatically translate into 12" at 100M? Or does it not quite work like that?
 
I filed my front sight pin to a nice fine point as I was having trouble seeing the target at 300 due to the size of the front sight. I get much better groups now. Get good with your irons know your rifle! Optics can fail or break easily.
 
My old CZ858 did the same as my Russian SKS's.
About a small dinner plate at 100 meters.
I never personally saw anyone with an 858 do much better with it using surplus ammo.
The only thing a man will ever exaggerate more than his #### size are his group averages on internet gun forums....
 
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