How 'bout some Lee sporter rifle #### (seeing as how every other make has their own)

I wonder if he means just in general, like any lee enfield/metford including comnerical ones, sporting rifles and millsurplus.

Also my older lee speed without a safety has an engraved 10 round mag ( its the one with the barrel replaced and a 375 rear sight on it)
 
Evanguy said:
I wonder if he means just in general, like any lee enfield/metford including comnerical ones, sporting rifles and millsurplus.

Also my older lee speed without a safety has an engraved 10 round mag ( its the one with the barrel replaced and a 375 rear sight on it)
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Evan:
Possibly, but that has no bearing on this thread, which I pointed out.

With regard to your .375, if it has no bolt safety, it was originally of early Metford pattern. UNLESS, if you remove the fore-arm, there is a tiny hole drilled across the rear of the lower receiver, which is where the cross-pin would fit if it had the Patent tang safety. If it does, there should be somewhere on the action, normally hidden by the wood, in very small letters, #1 (or No. 1) PATTERN, stamped, if it was meant to be sold as a "named" retailer. I have never seen a B.S.A.Co. retailed rifle thus marked, although EVERY #1 retailed by a "maker" I have seen was.

Is your receiver engraved in the same manner as the magazine? If so, I would hazard a guess that it originally came with the rifle, which would make it 3 of 175 rifles I have knowledge of [98.8%]. If the receiver is not engraved or engraved in the same manner/pattern as the magazine, then it was swapped out since it left Brum 'lo those many twelvemonths ago.
 
jamesharrison said:
Evan:
Possibly, but that has no bearing on this thread, which I pointed out.

With regard to your .375, if it has no bolt safety, it was originally of early Metford pattern. UNLESS, if you remove the fore-arm, there is a tiny hole drilled across the rear of the lower receiver, which is where the cross-pin would fit if it had the Patent tang safety. If it does, there should be somewhere on the action, normally hidden by the wood, in very small letters, #1 (or No. 1) PATTERN, stamped, if it was meant to be sold as a "named" retailer. I have never seen a B.S.A.Co. retailed rifle thus marked, although EVERY #1 retailed by a "maker" I have seen was.

Is your receiver engraved in the same manner as the magazine? If so, I would hazard a guess that it originally came with the rifle, which would make it 3 of 175 rifles I have knowledge of [98.8%]. If the receiver is not engraved or engraved in the same manner/pattern as the magazine, then it was swapped out since it left Brum 'lo those many twelvemonths ago.
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Thanks for the info, right now its at my parents house in Nova Scotia but when I go back in a few years ill dig it out and check it over again, I regret not bringing it here with me, there is a few times I wished I had it here.

I believe the mag is the one that came with the rifle the engraving matches and the amount of engraving is also consistent with the rest of the rifle.

here are the only pics I have of it, they were sent to me by a CGN'er when I was buying it in 2020

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Evanguy said:
Jamesharrison, im intrested to hear/read your thoughts on the mag of the rifle i posted pics of.
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Evan:

It looks to me that although the magazine & the other "bits" of the rifle are from the same time period, the style of the engraving on the various pieces do not match. The engraving on the magazine and dust cover appear to match (perhaps taken from 1 donor rifle?), but the engraving on the trigger guard / floorplate is a bit different (from another donor rifle?). Compare either to the king screw engraving.

Bear in mind, however, that I am looking at photos on my monitor that were taken by a camera (phone?) at whatever megabytes & then loaded onto a computer & then uploaded to the host.

That's my $0.02 worth, FWIW!

Jim
 
I previously mentioned the #1 Sporting Rifle marking that B.S.A.Co. placed on their rifles which were not marked with any B.S.A.Co. markings because they were sold to the trade for marking by whatever "maker" bought them.

Here is an example of that marking on the lower action strap, a rare one as all of the others I have seen had that marking hidden by the fore-stock. This is on, IIRC, a Hollis, Bentley & Playfair No. 1 Pattern Sporting Rifle.

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This is also a good example showing how the engraving patterns match on all of the bits. Notice the scroll pattern on the magazine, the trigger guard and just aft of the king screw, that are repeated on the knox form, the action straps and the dust cover. I would bet (and those who know me, know my views on gambling) that the engraving was done post-proof, as there is also engraving surrounding all of the BPH stampings on the receiver, barrel and bolt handle.
 

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