mudgunner49
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Trade it for an M&P9 - problem solved...
How can I fix my new Glock 17 Gen4 problem???
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Until, of course, the M&P9 begins to experience FTEs as a result of S&W putting .40 extractors in their 9mm guns as a cost saving measure.
Assuming it's a relatively recent one, of course...if it's an older one the problems will more likely be FTFs as the striker fails.
Or, if you shoot it tons, the complete barrel failure some of them experience as the chamber separates from the tube sounds exciting!
They are also good pistols, but not without their own set of issues.
In this case the smart move is definitely to see if this particular gun has problems, and if it does, let Glock sort it out.
Hi, Guys. Thanks for help.
I clean it, assembled back last night. I back to the range try to shot again today. So, you know what? It never had those problems again after 150 rounds down the pipe. I realy don't know that. The brand new Glock just need clean?
Oh, The sounds like Virgin. Get more exciting after first time!
I clean it, assembled back last night. I back to the range try to shot again today. So, you know what? It never had those problems again after 150 rounds down the pipe. I realy don't know that. The brand new Glock just need clean?
Oh, The sounds like Virgin. Get more exciting after first time!
No worry now for you. Glock love you long time. I go now away.
Hi,there
Congratulations. You win.
I am going to bring a dozen beers for you. Just let me know your phone number.
And I would like learn some English from you.(.......I am kidding. ha)
Guys, anybody want to come?
Cheer!
Congratulations. You win.
I am going to bring a dozen beers for you. Just let me know your phone number.
And I would like learn some English from you.(.......I am kidding. ha)
Guys, anybody want to come?
Cheer!
mudgunner49
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Easy there big rig - I can't do smileys on my mobile. It was a joke. Take a look at pistoltraining.com and check out the Glock 17 Gen4 as opposed to the M&P9 in long-term usage. Looks like Smith may have ironed out their issues...
Peace & hair grease
blake
No problem...
Slide crack at around 62,000 rounds on their M&P IIRC...not bad. I have seen glocks fail in a similar manner, although not with a round count that low.
It's a good pistol, but like all mass-manufactured items, they've got their issues. Hopefully S&W stops with the .40 extractors BS, and ideally sorts out their trigger, and then I think they will be a tough pistol to beat, especially if Glock doesn't get serious about their Gen 4 problems.
I would also be interested to know if S&W are considering a bit of a redesign to solve the barrel breakage problem they sometimes develop if the hardening process gets done a little too deep.
But I would guess they aren't, because it would be expensive, and it only affects a tiny minority of shooters...although those shooters tend to be influential as they are primarily LE and military, or high level competitors.
Slide crack at around 62,000 rounds on their M&P IIRC...not bad. I have seen glocks fail in a similar manner, although not with a round count that low.
It's a good pistol, but like all mass-manufactured items, they've got their issues. Hopefully S&W stops with the .40 extractors BS, and ideally sorts out their trigger, and then I think they will be a tough pistol to beat, especially if Glock doesn't get serious about their Gen 4 problems.
I would also be interested to know if S&W are considering a bit of a redesign to solve the barrel breakage problem they sometimes develop if the hardening process gets done a little too deep.
But I would guess they aren't, because it would be expensive, and it only affects a tiny minority of shooters...although those shooters tend to be influential as they are primarily LE and military, or high level competitors.
mudgunner49
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I had a 17L crack from the front of the ejection port down to the bottom of the slide in under 20K and kaBoomed 2 G22's and a G21, all with factory ammo. No such thing as perfection.
Considering that "service life" for a pistol is about 20K, anything over that is gravy...
strider007
CGN frequent flyer
LOL!!! Best answer!!!
strider007
CGN frequent flyer
And this one, too!!! LOL!!! But you gotta' add a couple of grunts!!! You guys are awesome!!!
I definitely don't disagree, although I would be pretty annoyed with a pistol that died at 20,000 rounds.
I would tend to say that a KB is the result of problem ammo in most cases, rather than a problem gun.
But I have no illusions about "perfection" being anything other than a marketing expression when it comes to any machine.
Mine did the same sort of thing out of the box to a lesser degree (no i wasn't limp wristing it)
I took it to the gun shop where i bought it and said "WTF?" The guy smiled and said "give it here, I'll tune it for ya" he field stripped it, wiped it down and sprayed the sh1t out of it with a Teflon base aerosol and then reassembled. I'm thinking....Tune it for ya....what the f did you tune, well I'll try it any how. gun went bang every time.
So, my friend, from now on I use a (liquid wrench) penetrating oil with Teflon that i found at CT for $4 and use it religiously on my gen 4/17...never a problem since.
wherermykeys
Regular
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Mine did the same sort of thing out of the box to a lesser degree (no i wasn't limp wristing it)
I took it to the gun shop where i bought it and said "WTF?" The guy smiled and said "give it here, I'll tune it for ya" he field stripped it, wiped it down and sprayed the sh1t out of it with a Teflon base aerosol and then reassembled. I'm thinking....Tune it for ya....what the f did you tune, well I'll try it any how. gun went bang every time.
So, my friend, from now on I use a (liquid wrench) penetrating oil with Teflon that i found at CT for $4 and use it religiously on my gen 4/17...never a problem since.
Or you could have just field stripped it yourself then cleaned and lubed it properly as you should with any brand new gun...
You seriously use Liquid Wrench on your gun?
I have actually seen a staggeringly large number of people confidently doing the former and totally failing on the latter, both here and elsewhere.
I didn't know that you had to strip and lube a brand new gun that came assembled and lubed from the factory????? And yes i use liquid wrench w/ Teflon on my Glock.....do you own a Glock? If so what do you recommend?
wherermykeys
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- Whitby, ON
This is common practice as new guns are shipped with a preservative oil, not actual lube. This is actually stated in all the manuals for my guns. Not sure about Glock's manual.
This is also something you should do for peace of mind whenever you have purchased a new gun. I would not even think about shooting a new gun without field stripping, light cleaning, lubing and function testing first. This should take you no more than 10 minutes...why even risk not doing this?
Liquid wrench even states in their specs that penetrating oil is not to be used for lubrication. This is copied and pasted right off their site:
PRODUCT LIMITATIONS: Does not furnish long term
lubrication or oil film protection.
I do not own a Glock but I do own an M&P. I use CLP on all main friction points.
Yup, Gen 4 G22. Buy a litre of Castrol Syntec motor oil when it goes on sale at Cambodian Tire and never look back. Pick up a precision oiler at a gun store or Princess Auto to reduce messiness.
BTW + infinity on limp wristing.
strider007
CGN frequent flyer
You are absolutely right...but I honestly don't think that anyone was trying to belittle the CGNer from the OP. Quite a few members who replied gave very informative and helpful advice, and he actually resolved the problem with his Glock. IMHO, I think that our community will benefit greatly from having a more "casual-buddy" relationship...kinda' like with our own personal friends when we crack trivial jokes amongst each other, about each other. They are not in spite of one another, but more on the lines of extracting humour from the very simple things that we do together, even if it's from having a simple conversation...
But again, that's just my 2 cents...
Teflon is some very durable, slippery sh1t friend, that is what in actuality I'm using. the penetrating fluid is just a means of depositing the Teflon. Synthetic lube if light enough in viscosity might be the way to go as I am unsure how Teflon build-up might effect the Glock.
As for stripping down, cleaning, lubing and re assembling their new product before shooting, I didn't read that anywhere in the manual....but then it is a Glock.
