How can there be love for the Remington 770?

It's all in the eye of the beholder. The kid is happy with his economy Remington just as you are happy with your Savage bolt action.

I personally have to wash my hands every time I hold a Savage bolt action and in fact find them so ugly I think they should be banned on looks alone...................... ;)
 
'Boo said:
I personally have to wash my hands every time I hold a Savage bolt action and in fact find them so ugly I think they should be banned on looks alone...................... ;)
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Ohh hey now! My Savage doesn't have the quality control issues and massive flaws the 770 has.... :p
 
drache said:
Ohh hey now! My Savage doesn't have the quality control issues and massive flaws the 770 has.... :p
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And that is OK....But you know what, the guys who bought the 770s bought them because they wanted one...No need to point out how big of a POS it is...Sure they don't want to hear it...No more than you want to hear how big a POS your Savage is...
 
captonion said:
And that is OK....But you know what, the guys who bought the 770s bought them because they wanted one...No need to point out how big of a POS it is...Sure they don't want to hear it...No more than you want to hear how big a POS your Savage is...
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I wasn't pointing it out to the owner of the 770. I was asked by someone what my views are on the 770 because said person was looking for a rifle. I gave that person my views on the 770 about the flaws of the rifle. Then the 770 defender came in with a friend and started beeking off that I didn't know what I was talking about.
 
The old man bought one in 243 and the thing will shoot. I printed a couple groups pretty close to 3/4 inch at 100. Its also light and easy to carry which is why he likes it so much. Other than that it feels plasticy and the bolt throw is really rough. Personally I prefer a Savage for a cheaper rifle. (Not an axis)
 
drache said:
I actually had a kid who states the 770 is one of the best guns ever made and would actually put it up against any Savage rifle I own at 200-300 yards. Now I may be wrong but there is no way a Remington 770 is going to compete against a Savage 10 FCP at 200-300 yards.
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Take that bet and show him...Whoever wins takes the other guys rifle.. Easily done!
 
drache said:
Ohh hey now! My Savage doesn't have the quality control issues and massive flaws the 770 has.... :p
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I remember when savage first came out in the bolt action market (excepting the 340) it was then a POS and it still is IMHO. I too must have a shower after handling a savage (not the 99 series, a sweet little lever), I feel as though I've been violated somehow. I know they have a good reputation now are very accurate as a rule but they are still butt ugly and I just cannot get past the aesthetics. The savage did have the quality control problems back in the beginning as well but worked through them to the following they have today.
 
c-fbmi said:
I remember when savage first came out in the bolt action market
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I feel the same way about the Remington 788 when they came out in the late '60's. Built to a low price point, clunky as hell, and to my eyes ascetically equal to a Ford Edsel. :stirthepot2: Who would have ever guessed they would develop a cult following. Maybe the 770 will follow the 788 and become a collectible in a couple of decades ............
 
drache said:
Ohh hey now! My Savage doesn't have the quality control issues and massive flaws the 770 has.... :p
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Every savage I've ever handled has. Some people like 770s the same way people like savages. Some people have absolutely no idea what quality is or simply don't care as long as they get good groups. Some people can own and shoot a rifle and have no idea that it's defective, even when the defect is pointed out to them.
 
In big game hunting, the practical target size is closer to a foot than it is to an inch, and provided the hunter can always place his bullet somewhere within that foot, at unknown ranges, in a variety of light, wind, and weather condtions, he'll be able to put meat in the freezer. The most important element of a hunting rifle is reliability but on the heals of reliability are: a good trigger, that is neither too heavy nor too light, and is free of creep and over-travel. In the field, a rifle of mediocre accuracy with an excellent trigger is easier to hit with, than is an exquisitely accurate rifle with a mediocre trigger. The rifle must have sights that are easy to see against any background and appropriate to the conditions of the hunt. The rifle must have handling qualities that enable the marksman to carry it all day without undue fatigue, and bring it onto target quickly. If the hunter loves his rifle, so much the better. If he loves it, he'll care for it, and use it regularly, which increases his confidence and his love for it. All other concerns ranging from the cartridge the rifle is chambered for, to its stock and barrel material are simply personal preference and has little to do with the outcome of the hunt. For some people the 770 is enough, but not for the enthusiast.
 
I have never had a Rem 770 in my shop for any reason. For those who own them, they must be fairly trouble free.
 
I gotta say, I bought the 710 (camo) in .30-06 back in 2006. It's still in my safe. I've taken 3 moose with it even though It's only used as a "rainy day" gun ( I just happened to see moose on the days that I had it)..So It kinda has some luck with it. It is super accurate!!! sure, they are fugly, not the smoothest cycling bolt-action in the world, but I really can't complain about mine all that much.. Can shoot 1" and under all day at 100...and my best (although I don't have proof..as I don't have the target anymore) was 1" exactly at 200 yards....I shot that group 3 times in one day..hasn't happened since, but i've come close..Wouldn't ever sell it..great gun for those harsh days afield...don't worry if I drop it or scratch it...and it's accurate as heck to boot!!! Maybe I got one of the good ones?? who knows..
 
Boomer said:
In big game hunting, the practical target size is closer to a foot than it is to an inch, and provided the hunter can always place his bullet somewhere within that foot, at unknown ranges, in a variety of light, wind, and weather condtions, he'll be able to put meat in the freezer. The most important element of a hunting rifle is reliability but on the heals of reliability are: a good trigger, that is neither too heavy nor too light, and is free of creep and over-travel. In the field, a rifle of mediocre accuracy with an excellent trigger is easier to hit with, than is an exquisitely accurate rifle with a mediocre trigger. The rifle must have sights that are easy to see against any background and appropriate to the conditions of the hunt. The rifle must have handling qualities that enable the marksman to carry it all day without undue fatigue, and bring it onto target quickly. If the hunter loves his rifle, so much the better. If he loves it, he'll care for it, and use it regularly, which increases his confidence and his love for it. All other concerns ranging from the cartridge the rifle is chambered for, to its stock and barrel material are simply personal preference and has little to do with the outcome of the hunt. For some people the 770 is enough, but not for the enthusiast.
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I agree with this statemant as it pertains to a Big Game rifle that is carried around or used for extended periods out in the field and shot off hand. Centerfire rifles however are not automaticly Big Game rifles and not all are used in this manner. As such the reliability of the rifle may be less relevant than the accuracy. My 223 rem has taken coyotes out to 235 yards and has done so because it is accurate not reliable. When aiming at a kill zone the size of a softball you'd best have a rifle that shoots <MOA. I have only cycled the bolt quickly once for a follow up shot and hence the function of the bolt is also next to irrelevant. It could be a single shot for that matter. Or a rifle that gets shot at the range or out of a blind for that matter needs accuracy before reliability depending on the range and target of course.

One mans meat is another mans poison.

George
 
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ALBERTA BOY said:
Every savage I've ever handled has. Some people like 770s the same way people like savages. Some people have absolutely no idea what quality is or simply don't care as long as they get good groups. Some people can own and shoot a rifle and have no idea that it's defective, even when the defect is pointed out to them.
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You must be really hard to please !!! You can also have a beautiful piece of work in your hand with no flaws that doesn't shoot worth ####...then it is called ART !!!
 
ALBERTA BOY said:
Every savage I've ever handled has. Some people like 770s the same way people like savages. Some people have absolutely no idea what quality is or simply don't care as long as they get good groups. Some people can own and shoot a rifle and have no idea that it's defective, even when the defect is pointed out to them.
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If I pull the trigger and the bullet fires and goes where I aim it is a good gun.
 
g-manz35 said:
Is that like when the Accutrigger does what its suppose to and you call it defective and no one else agrees?
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A quick google search shows a dozen people with it same problem. Further, that very thread you are referring to on this site had some people post that thy shared my experience.

Anyway, that was about savage rimfire rifles.

The defects that I've found in savage center fire rifles range from warped receivers to incorrectly tapped scope base holes to unfinished bolt faces on every one I've ever handled to feeding problems to non free floated barrels to headspace problems to incomplete bluing.

The qc just isn't there.

You don't have to spend any more than what a savage costs to get a quality rifle. You jut have to buy a decent brand. First clue: if your bolt handle is cast, it's not a quality rifle.
 
Bearcat said:
You must be really hard to please !!! You can also have a beautiful piece of work in your hand with no flaws that doesn't shoot worth ####...then it is called ART !!!
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That wouldn't please me either.

I'm easy to please. There are many rifles hat are great. They're accurate, reliable, AND are well made, quality pieces.
 
I have several Remington 700's. Some people on-line say Remington is junk. Meh, whatever.
I have a Tikka. Some people on-line say Tikka is junk. So what.
I have a couple Browning X-bolts. Some people on line don't like those either. Big deal.

Some people get too concerned about what other folks type about a brand of rifle [or truck, etc] that they might personally own.

Pretty much no matter what you own, someone is going to talk #### about it. There are very few off-the-rack type of guns that EVERYONE will agree is excellent.

So, some people dislike, and talk #### about the Rem 770/710. It shouldn't concern you if you have one and like it.

With that in mind, to answer the OP's original question: Some people who own the 770 haven't had issues with them, and they shoot fine enough for their needs, and don't care when some anomymous people on the internet badmouth them.
 
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