You lube 9mm and 357? I don't. carbide dies+clean cases = No lube required.
Wet tumbling with SS pins cleans better and requires less effort than dry tumbler. Yes, in total it takes hours, but it takes only minutes of my time. It's like a dishwasher for brass.
I also have carbide dies when it's appropriate, including the two mentioned. I mentioned lube because most people don't shell out for the carbide dies and proper lube is needed. Thanks for the info though, much appreciated. I also have the stainless pins and tumbler. I just find it all a waste of time. I most certainly won't knock anyone that goes through the effort of making their brass shiny clean. It's all up to the individual.