How did you guys start out developing loads?

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Hello,

I was just curious how you started funding the bullet selection just to find out what shoots well?
I see many bullets like 500 pcs, so what happens if they are no good in your gun? Is there any methods you guys have found to minimize bullet costs for testing?

Thanks
 
I recently stumbled upon this (on these boards). I tried it out and the system works fairly well. I reccomend you read both articles, one is for long range huting and the other is for 'quick' set up. Jerry Teo (Mystic Percision.... see banner above) wrote both articles.

http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/precision-reloading.php
http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/reloading-load-tuning-1.php

I used to do it the 'other way'. I would buy 500 bullets and 2 lbs of powder.
1st test was
- 4 shot groups at every powder level going in .5gr increments from min to max (according to manuals)
2nd test was
- 4 shot goups at .1gr increments between where I got the best groups from the initial test.

This usually resulted in a minimum of 96 bullets being fired (I actually had one testing go over 275 before I gave up on it), and I sometimes had to start over again as I wasn't satisfied with the performance.

I have tried Jerry's method on 2 firearms now and I am happy with the results. Much quicker and easier to dial in your load, now I only have to buy 100 to really try them out.

Cheers!
 
That was a very good read....Jerry is the man!


I also find that ladder loading at 200 Yards will usually yield a good starting point and then I fine tune from there.


Gone for me are the days of loading 36-45 rounds of 3 shots each and firing all to find an acceptable grouping.

I can now ladder load 12-15 rounds from the lowest charge up to max in .3 or .4 grain intervals, this will usually reveal a node as Jerry reffered to it.
 
Pick the bullet, buy 100, not 500. Pick the powder. I've found the accuracy load powder given in my Lyman book, works well. Work up the load.
 
500 bullets and 2 lbs powder might be a bit over committing if the combination does not work. You might want to go with 50 or 100 bullets and 1 lb powder. You can start with a starting load then work up in .5 grain increments until you find the 'sweet spot'. From there you can fiddle with primers but if the load is good, don't bother. The other method, as described by JR Sundra, is to use a few powders and shoot 3 rounds up to recommended max in 1 grain increments to establish the max load in that powder. For example, if 58 grains is max for a certain cartridge/bullet weight combination you would load and fire 56 grains, 57 grains, 58 grains. If you see pressure signs at 57, you stop there and 56 is the max you would use. You need to know signs of excess pressure - if you can easily open the action, there are no scoring marks on the bottom of the case or heavy cratering on the primer (but that can also vary on primer manufacture), you've got a safe max and if you stay in the load recommendation, you should establish it as safe.

Then load 3 bullets in the max load for each powder, the more powders the better, and hopefully, one of them should shoot well. From there, you can take the best load and tinker with that one. Generally, rifles tend to like a powder no matter how you load for it. So if you have 5 powders, you will load 15 bullets (5 powders x 3 bullets each) to establish max load, then another 15 bullets (5 powders x 3 bullets at max for each powder) to establish accuracy. So far only 30 bullets. You might say 2 powders look good so you load 3 more bullets for each of those powders for 6 bullets. 36 bullets establish a load is pretty effective. You can improve this a bit if you do some research on what powders seem to work well in certain calibres. H4831 is good in 260, 270, 280 and others. Certain powders seem to work well in 30-06, etc... You get the idea.
 
I develop a load by starting a minimum recommended for a particular powder / bullet combo, and increase the powder 3 grains (at every 5 rounds loaded) until I reach the max recommended.

Once a find a powder range bracket - I fine tune from there. Initially increasing by three grains rather than .5 or 1 full grain can circumvent a lot of unnecessary experimentation.
 
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