how do I tell if its a baretta garand
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The reciever is marked like this: PB2347 the PB meaning it's a Berretta and the 2347 would be the serial number.
Thanks guys, could it be a Springfeild with a barretta barrel? it has a pb stamped at the front sling mount and crown with VAR under it on the barrel, all the other parts end with SA. The guy wants 800. I think it is too much but I am not sure
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poorpi said:
VAR is a Danish rebuild barrel. It sounds like a mixmaster of US/Itallian/Danish parts. I wouldn't pay $800 for it........
VAR--DANES
PB--BERETTA
BMR or BMB--BREDA
SA--Springfield
HR--H&R
W--Winchester
IH--International Harvester
There are many other sub contractor markings as well, but these would be the most common
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Nothing wrong with a VAR barrel. Better than a 60s SA barrel IMO.
The Danes did good work when it came to Garands and the Italians
made some parts that are far better than the USGI stuff. If its a Danish
rebuild and the parts are SA and Italian its not a mixmaster. Its a rifle that clearly shows its history as WW2 Garand that went to Europe and went
through a very good rebuild program. Those rifles typically show very little
internal wear due to long term storage. Ive seen several that fit that description and almost all showed the same wear characteristics. Very good barrels, Post war upgrades, no rust and the wood looks worse than anything. Lots of cosmo still inside as well.
It might even have a sticker in the barrel channel of the stock with a date on it. Its not usually a rifle that bubba got a hold of and put whatever junk he had to make a complete rifle. If that was the case i would consider it a mixmaster. SA with Italian parts and VAR barrel. Thats
probably a keeper.
The Danes did good work when it came to Garands and the Italians
made some parts that are far better than the USGI stuff. If its a Danish
rebuild and the parts are SA and Italian its not a mixmaster. Its a rifle that clearly shows its history as WW2 Garand that went to Europe and went
through a very good rebuild program. Those rifles typically show very little
internal wear due to long term storage. Ive seen several that fit that description and almost all showed the same wear characteristics. Very good barrels, Post war upgrades, no rust and the wood looks worse than anything. Lots of cosmo still inside as well.
It might even have a sticker in the barrel channel of the stock with a date on it. Its not usually a rifle that bubba got a hold of and put whatever junk he had to make a complete rifle. If that was the case i would consider it a mixmaster. SA with Italian parts and VAR barrel. Thats
probably a keeper.
Sticker is nothing special, just gives the 300m zero from number of clics up from bottom/center IIRC and the guys name that zeroed it.
seriously, you can build one and have it completly refinshed for less then $800......quite a bit less if you shop around.
It's just a rebuilt mixmaster shooter, who cares if some Danish armorer or your own gunsmith puts a barrel on a receiver, you can even do that yourself with a few proper tools. All the small parts just pop right in, nothing to it.
I'd buy 3 1917's or a couple of 1903's for $800 before I would ever consider dropping that kind of money on a mixmaster Garand.....hell, I'm building a .308 M1 with a brand new $300 Douglass barrel and it's going to be less then $800 when it's all said and done.
But hey, it's your cash.
seriously, you can build one and have it completly refinshed for less then $800......quite a bit less if you shop around.
It's just a rebuilt mixmaster shooter, who cares if some Danish armorer or your own gunsmith puts a barrel on a receiver, you can even do that yourself with a few proper tools. All the small parts just pop right in, nothing to it.
I'd buy 3 1917's or a couple of 1903's for $800 before I would ever consider dropping that kind of money on a mixmaster Garand.....hell, I'm building a .308 M1 with a brand new $300 Douglass barrel and it's going to be less then $800 when it's all said and done.
But hey, it's your cash.
poorpi said:
Compare it against the pics of this unissued example that's currently referenced in the MKL (Milsurp Knowledge Library)......
1955 Danish Military Garand (Mfg by Breda in Italy)
"All matching c/w Danish Bayonet, Scabbard and Sling"
(Click PIC to Enlarge)
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