how do you soften your ar trigger?

There is a post somewhere (do a search), think it is called the 10 minute trigger job or something close.

Consists of shortening one side of the trigger spring which improves greatly. Takes 10 minutes, cost "FREE", and if you screw it up, it will cost a couple of bucks for a new spring.

Did it to mine, and the trigger is great. Rifle works flawlessly.
 
Maybe a dumb question but what is an effective and simple way to catch the hammer when using the paracord method. If I have one hand on the cord, and one on the trigger I have no hands left to catch the hammer. :confused:

Again, sorry if this seem like a dumb question but it's early in the morning and I have only had one cup of coffee :)

Use your big toe to pull the trigger (or another appendage if that works), one hand to pull on the paracord, and the other to hold the receiver.

I wedged a piece of dense foam in front of the frame which prevented the hammer from striking it. I'm sure any soft material would work.
 
There is a post somewhere (do a search), think it is called the 10 minute trigger job or something close.

Consists of shortening one side of the trigger spring which improves greatly. Takes 10 minutes, cost "FREE", and if you screw it up, it will cost a couple of bucks for a new spring.

Did it to mine, and the trigger is great. Rifle works flawlessly.

I also saved the post you are referring to....

15 Minute Practical Trigger Job for the AR-15

By AFreeMan


Medcop was shooting Urodoji’s CAR-15 and had commented to him on the excellent, smooth
trigger. I was asked to send Medcop a description of how this was done. Urodoji got Medcop in touch with me, and I did some sketches, and described to Medcop how to do it.
I thought this was common knowledge, but I was asked on AR15.com’s Chat to write this up for
posting. So here goes…


______________________________________________

Disclaimer: If you can’t follow these directions successfully, you should not be playing with
guns, especially AR-15’s.
______________________________________________

Materials needed:
• Two Encyclopedias (you may sub two wood blocks, these are used to prop up the lower receiver)
• Small punch (for trigger/hammer pins)
• Large soft punch (3/8” Delrin® rod or 3/8” wood dowel)
• Fine compound (#7 rubbing compound or Kit Scratch Out plastic polish)
• Wire Cutters
• Jeweler’s Pliers (small pliers with no teeth in the jaws)



UNLOAD RIFLE AND SEPARATE UPPER RECEIVER FROM LOWER RECEIVER
I had to say this, too. If you didn’t know this, you should not be handling firearms.


1. Remove the Safety (AR-15’s have safeties, M16’s have selectors) to allow easy removal of the Trigger later. Turn the Safety 45 degrees, halfway between SAFE and FIRE. Lay the Lower Receiver on its left side on the two encyclopedias (with the Web, they aren’t good for anything else) or wood blocks, covered with soft rags such that the Lower Receiver is blocked up, and the Safety can be tapped out. Tap out the Safety with the large soft Delrin® punch or wood dowel. With the Safety halfway between Safe and Fire it will pop out without having to remove the grip and detent. Don’t worry about losing the Safety Detent, as it is captured by a groove in its hole.

2. Polish the sear surfaces. With the Hammer in the up, or fired position, place a dab of
polishing compound on the Hammer sear surface. To prevent the hammer from striking the receiver and possibly breaking the bolt stop, place a strip of leather, rubber or plastic in front of the hammer. #### the Hammer and pull the Trigger. Repeat this 10 times. Put another dab of compound on the Hammer’s sear surface, and #### and fire 10 more times.


3. Now remove the Hammer first, then the Trigger and Disconnector, by tapping out their pins.

4. Clean off every trace of compound from the Hammer and Trigger. Do it again to make sure. Clean any compound from inside the Lower Receiver.


5. Clip the right leg of the Hammer Spring to a length of ¼”.




6. Bend both legs of the Trigger Spring UP approximately 25 degrees as per the diagram. Use Jeweler’s pliers for this. You do not want to leave marks in the spring. Smooth jawed pliers only!



7. Reassemble the Trigger assembly with the Trigger Pin’s outer retaining groove to the LEFT side of the Receiver.

8. Install the Safety. A little trick… Hold the detent down with the end of a ¼” punch while
tapping in the Safety from the other side.


9. Install the Hammer. When installing the Hammer Pin it does not matter which side the outer groove is on. Notice that the left leg of the Hammer Spring engages the outer groove of the Trigger Pin, which you installed to be on the left side, retaining it in the Receiver. (You may also want to use “Anti-Walk Pins”. If you use these, install these pins so that the E-clips are away from your body to prevent the E-clips from snagging on your clothing and possibly snapping off. If you are right-handed, the E-clips should be on the right. And if you are left-handed, the E-clips should be on the left.)

10. Lubricate all the moving lower part; making sure you put a drop of oil on the Hammer sear surface.



Caution: DO NOT modify the Trigger Spring without also modifying the Hammer Spring as described.

I have used this trigger job method for about 10 years now, and have NEVER had it fail to pop
the cap. Hammer Spring force is only reduced by about 25%, and there is still plenty of power to insure good ignition. There is still full sear engagement, so the trigger is not unsafe in any way.

This trigger job DOES result in a smoother, lighter trigger pull.

If you are unhappy with your results, at the most, you have only ruined two springs, three dollars worth of parts. This slight polishing with the compound will not harm your Hammer and Trigger in any way.

Good Shooting!
A Free Man
 
Maybe a dumb question but what is an effective and simple way to catch the hammer when using the paracord method. If I have one hand on the cord, and one on the trigger I have no hands left to catch the hammer. :confused:

Again, sorry if this seem like a dumb question but it's early in the morning and I have only had one cup of coffee :)

I used a foam earplug. Stuffed it in front of the hammer, and stayed put the whole time.

Did it on both if my lowers and made a huuuuge difference in the feel of the trigger. DO IT!!!
 
I also saved the post you are referring to....

15 Minute Practical Trigger Job for the AR-15

By AFreeMan


Medcop was shooting Urodoji’s CAR-15 and had commented to him on the excellent, smooth
trigger. I was asked to send Medcop a description of how this was done. Urodoji got Medcop in touch with me, and I did some sketches, and described to Medcop how to do it.
I thought this was common knowledge, but I was asked on AR15.com’s Chat to write this up for
posting. So here goes…


______________________________________________

Disclaimer: If you can’t follow these directions successfully, you should not be playing with
guns, especially AR-15’s.
______________________________________________

Materials needed:
• Two Encyclopedias (you may sub two wood blocks, these are used to prop up the lower receiver)
• Small punch (for trigger/hammer pins)
• Large soft punch (3/8” Delrin® rod or 3/8” wood dowel)
• Fine compound (#7 rubbing compound or Kit Scratch Out plastic polish)
• Wire Cutters
• Jeweler’s Pliers (small pliers with no teeth in the jaws)



UNLOAD RIFLE AND SEPARATE UPPER RECEIVER FROM LOWER RECEIVER
I had to say this, too. If you didn’t know this, you should not be handling firearms.


1. Remove the Safety (AR-15’s have safeties, M16’s have selectors) to allow easy removal of the Trigger later. Turn the Safety 45 degrees, halfway between SAFE and FIRE. Lay the Lower Receiver on its left side on the two encyclopedias (with the Web, they aren’t good for anything else) or wood blocks, covered with soft rags such that the Lower Receiver is blocked up, and the Safety can be tapped out. Tap out the Safety with the large soft Delrin® punch or wood dowel. With the Safety halfway between Safe and Fire it will pop out without having to remove the grip and detent. Don’t worry about losing the Safety Detent, as it is captured by a groove in its hole.

2. Polish the sear surfaces. With the Hammer in the up, or fired position, place a dab of
polishing compound on the Hammer sear surface. To prevent the hammer from striking the receiver and possibly breaking the bolt stop, place a strip of leather, rubber or plastic in front of the hammer. #### the Hammer and pull the Trigger. Repeat this 10 times. Put another dab of compound on the Hammer’s sear surface, and #### and fire 10 more times.


3. Now remove the Hammer first, then the Trigger and Disconnector, by tapping out their pins.

4. Clean off every trace of compound from the Hammer and Trigger. Do it again to make sure. Clean any compound from inside the Lower Receiver.


5. Clip the right leg of the Hammer Spring to a length of ¼”.




6. Bend both legs of the Trigger Spring UP approximately 25 degrees as per the diagram. Use Jeweler’s pliers for this. You do not want to leave marks in the spring. Smooth jawed pliers only!



7. Reassemble the Trigger assembly with the Trigger Pin’s outer retaining groove to the LEFT side of the Receiver.

8. Install the Safety. A little trick… Hold the detent down with the end of a ¼” punch while
tapping in the Safety from the other side.


9. Install the Hammer. When installing the Hammer Pin it does not matter which side the outer groove is on. Notice that the left leg of the Hammer Spring engages the outer groove of the Trigger Pin, which you installed to be on the left side, retaining it in the Receiver. (You may also want to use “Anti-Walk Pins”. If you use these, install these pins so that the E-clips are away from your body to prevent the E-clips from snagging on your clothing and possibly snapping off. If you are right-handed, the E-clips should be on the right. And if you are left-handed, the E-clips should be on the left.)

10. Lubricate all the moving lower part; making sure you put a drop of oil on the Hammer sear surface.



Caution: DO NOT modify the Trigger Spring without also modifying the Hammer Spring as described.

I have used this trigger job method for about 10 years now, and have NEVER had it fail to pop
the cap. Hammer Spring force is only reduced by about 25%, and there is still plenty of power to insure good ignition. There is still full sear engagement, so the trigger is not unsafe in any way.

This trigger job DOES result in a smoother, lighter trigger pull.

If you are unhappy with your results, at the most, you have only ruined two springs, three dollars worth of parts. This slight polishing with the compound will not harm your Hammer and Trigger in any way.

Good Shooting!
A Free Man

I have also been doing the same for many years on many AR triggers with NO light primer strikes with mil spec hard primers.

My favorite AR is down to 3/4 of a pound with this method - Without cutting a spring leg ! - :D

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I have also been doing the same for many years on many AR triggers with NO light primer strikes with mil spec hard primers.

My favorite AR is down to 3/4 of a pound with this method - Without cutting a spring leg ! - :D

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How do you reduce the trigger weight? I did this at the recommended 25 degrees and I'm still getting 6.5 lbs, I'd like to get down to 3. Do I just bend the spring more than 25 degrees?
 
How do you reduce the trigger weight? I did this at the recommended 25 degrees and I'm still getting 6.5 lbs, I'd like to get down to 3. Do I just bend the spring more than 25 degrees?

Bend the spring leg as close to the coil as possible - not past it.

More than 25 degrees - but just a little at a time.

Do not nick the spring with your tool.

Also - both springs have to be bent, changing the hammer spring affects the trigger spring and vice versa. When both springs are matched - voila.

Just keep going back and forth until synergy :) (many back and forths)

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