How far down the spin of a AR 30 rounder do I pin?

ShooterMcGavin

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Hey guys i have come a across a deal on some new 30 rounded AR mags. As i have recently sold my old ar and the mags i dont know how far down the spin to pin them. an some body pleae measeure for me and let me know where to rivot it?

Thanks again,

Gavin
 
From the top of the magazine lips the pin on my 30 rounders is approx 5cm or 2 inches down.

Try loading five rounds in and eyeballing it :)
 
SCULLY said:
If your on Canadian soil , pin them very fast !

Yeah the authorities are just waiting to book you on your unpinned mags. They have inflitrated us all, nothing can be hidden from them. :)

Back on track my AR mag is pinned about 2 inches from the lip.
 
ShooterMcGavin said:
I never said they were on canadian soil that is my busness, just an answer was all i was looking for, thank you for your critiizime though

Didn't criticize you anywhere , just offered some advice . Doesn't look like english is your first language , probably just an interpretation gap . Best wishes .
 
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thanks to those who helped me out, and my english is perfect but my typing is not, what i have a problem with is paying 50 bucks plus for a new mag up here and prefer the big savings that i get elsewhere. 20 bucks it cost me for a rivit gun and rivit sounds good to me.

I will have extras when i am done and will sell them here as usual.
 
SCULLY said:
I agree , if you look around in the states , you will find plenty of top of the line 30 rd mags for 10 bucks . For example ............. http://www.cproductsllc.com/ top mags 10.60 US or advertised on this site for 40-50 bucks !
You'd think some enterprising American would buy cheap 30-rounders, pin them and sell them to Canadians.
 
Westicle said:
actually as long as the mags are not assembelled they are legal as can be....

I wasn't aware of this. Would it be possible to buy some 30-round mags in the U.S. (are they legal for export?), disassemble them and legally bring them through Canada Customs? Then pin them to 5 rounds before reassembling in Canada.
 
The tricky part in regards to importing magazinesa is that Canada Customs have their own set of regulations pertaining to importing magazines that is much more stringent than the established case law in regards to possessing magazines.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cm/...html#appendixG

(4) A cartridge magazine described in subsection (1) that has been altered or re-manufactured so that it is not capable of containing more than five or ten cartridges, as the case may be, of the type for which it was originally designed is not a prohibited device as prescribed by that subsection if the modification to the magazine cannot be easily removed and the magazine cannot be easily further altered so that it is so capable of containing more than five or ten cartridges, as the case may be.

(5) For the purposes of subsection (4), altering or re-manufacturing a cartridge magazine includes

(a) the indentation of its casing by forging, casting, swaging or impressing;

(b) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a steel or aluminum casing, the insertion and attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or aluminum, as the case may be, or of a similar material, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method; or

(c) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a casing made of a material other than steel or aluminum, the attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or of a material similar to that of the magazine casing, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method or by applying a permanent adhesive substance, such as a cement or an epoxy or other glue.

According to their regulations, the good old pop rivet is not a suitable method for blocking the magazine in order to import it.
 
Mike K said:
The tricky part in regards to importing magazinesa is that Canada Customs have their own set of regulations pertaining to importing magazines that is much more stringent than the established case law in regards to possessing magazines.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cm/...html#appendixG



According to their regulations, the good old pop rivet is not a suitable method for blocking the magazine in order to import it.
You know thats really odd as the rivet consists of a rod or pin of steel surrounded by an aluminum sheathing. You know I still dont get this legal stuff, it really blows me away. Sigh...oh well, at least not many other people do around here so I know Im not the only one.
 
i would say 2" but given that measure and make a mark at 2 inches load 5 rnds and see how close you are and pin away
 
Why do you want to pin them when a plastic block inside the spring serves the same purpose? A pin can hang up the spring and cause grief.
 
The solution here is to get a tough piece of plastic or a strip of metal, put that in the spine of the magazine so that it blocks the follower from going down further than 5 rounds, then rivet the strip into the spine. That way the pin won't bind on the magazine well as you can put it further down. Plus you can use multiple rivets if you do it this way so you don't have to worry about one falling out.

I've got several done this way and it works well.
 
Norcyaddict762 said:
Most of the RCMP and police DO NOT care about magazines.. It seems most of you however go anal about it.

Police are after drug dealers and serious crime.. they can't be bothered about some minor details.
Stop fear mongering.. If you have a standard 30rnd mag that is unpinned, hmmrm ... pin it without going crazy about it. Don't go phycho or the cops will think you have something to hide. If I am not mistaken you can apply to fire standard capacity to 10rnds if you ask the CFC and or local law enforcement for a match tournement.
Let the police know and you might get the OK if it is for a group function.

:D

BTW. .a pop rivet is just fine for importation of mags because I just got 10 VZ58 30/5 mags sent to me by OKO and they came in without a hitch.
I also got sent one mag without a pin.. bad I know.. customs didn't seem to care as they inspected the package.

are you for real.:confused: :rolleyes:
 
Norcyaddict762 said:
Most of the RCMP and police DO NOT care about magazines.. It seems most of you however go anal about it.

.

Just one or two of the R.C.M.P. officers here are very cognisant of the five round limit and have checked magazines on semi autos. And they were looking to lay a charge.

BTW. a plastic cutting board makes a very good source for magaze blocks.
They can be cut very precisely in a table or radial arm saw .
 
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