How heavy would you go?

I'll jump in with the conflicting opinion as a former coyote hunting addict. It wasnt in common to spend the the day sun up to sundown traipsing around calling and hunting the wily dogs. I think every rifle I used was over 10 pounds if not 15. My favorite is a PGW Coyote with a huge Nightforce something or other on it. Find a rifle you like, practice a lot and shoot posts. Easy peezy trigger squeezy.
 
I'll jump in with the conflicting opinion as a former coyote hunting addict. It wasnt in common to spend the the day sun up to sundown traipsing around calling and hunting the wily dogs. I think every rifle I used was over 10 pounds if not 15. My favorite is a PGW Coyote with a huge Nightforce something or other on it. Find a rifle you like, practice a lot and shoot posts. Easy peezy trigger squeezy.

If u are gonna take a poke at little furry things 400+ yards then certainly you have the right gear!
 
If u are gonna take a poke at little furry things 400+ yards then certainly you have the right gear!

It's really one of the only things I miss about moving from Alberta to the east Kootenays. I don't know anywhere nearby to hunt coyotes. My closest called in coyote was 6 yards with a fairly heavy 22-250. More than a few at 600 yards plus. I did try carrying a shotgun for close in shots at one point like some people recommend but that end up being actual unnecessary weight.
 
A rifle's maximum weight depends on the nature of the country you hunt in, and your physical strength and endurance. My visits to the mountains were infrequent, and once there, I quickly discovered I wanted the lightest rifle I could get. Even when the terrain is demanding, at sea level I do much better. That said, sacrificing the rifle's balance for light weight is false economy. Choosing a very light contour, with a barrel of short to medium length, coupled with a standard weight stock, unavoidably results in a butt heavy balance, so the lightweight rifle must be designed to be light weight with good balance.

Rifle weight is a combination of the weight of the elements that make up the whole. Minimizing the weight of the individual elements could easily shave a pound from the entire weight. Consider using a light weight nylon sling rather than leather, a thin butt pad rather than a thick recoil pad, choose light weight aluminum ring mounts rather than steel mounts that consist of a heavy base with rings that attach to it, choose a compact scope rather than a full size, and load 3 rounds of ammo in the magazine rather than 5. Bottom metal and the magazine follower can be aluminum rather than steel. If the rifle has a custom stock, choosing Kevlar or carbon fiber, over wood or fiberglass will reduce the weight. If the stock is made from traditional stock materials like wood or fiberglass, holes drilled in the butt reduce weight and shift the center of balance forward, provided care ism taken not to exaggerate a muzzle heavy balance, and taking care not to weaken the stock.

Assuming its well balanced, a rifle is too light when recoil unduly interferes with marksmanship. So this brings another limitation to the light weight rifle, which is the size and velocity of it's cartridge. If you shoot only occasionally, a 6 pound .300 magnum is unlikely to encourage off season practice, despite its ballistic advantages. Muzzle breaks are gaining popularity, and they do reduce felt recoil, but the rearward projection of noise is a disadvantage, as is the additional couple of inches of barrel length. Unless dangerous game is on your list, you will probably not be disadvantaged by choosing a moderate capacity cartridge for your rifle.
 
I don't understand why people are so concerned with the weight of their rifles, its a boom stick that turns us into apex hunters.. a few extra lbs, one would speculate, is of little concern. I recognize that weight is good for bench shooting and not so good for hauling around all day, but isn't the trade off worth it? I'm not trying to be bright, just asking the dumb question instead of assuming the answer.

Well you live in Ontario, so here's a challenge. Take the rifle of your choice and spend a few days hiking the back country along the north shore of Lake Superior. Twenty miles of that should answer any question you have concerning rifle weight.
 
That's a good way to put it. I was also going to suggest a 20km hike through Churchill's "back country" tundra. I like my stalking/carry rifles under 8lbs scoped or under 7 pounds with reliable iron sights.
 
I have a few accurate heavy barrel rifles that I'd love to shoot a coyote with but I sure as shyte don't want to haul them around in knee high snow. A 7 pound rig is heavy enough for this aging body.
 
That i totally get, but does 3 lbs really make a big diff?

If you are still hunting (moving slowly through the woods hoping to spot a deer and get a good shot off) and doing it successfully while covering any amount of ground, yes, 3lbs makes a big difference. I want the rifle in my hands not slung over my shoulder or tied to a pack, it saves movement that may get me detected if the deer hasn't already and if its been a long walk with a heavy gun in my hands I may not be able to get steady. If I am only going a few hundred yards this matters much less. Grab a 10lb weight and go for a couple hour walk through deer habitat, it doesn't get better when the weight is 46" or so long.

To the OP it seems you're moving in the right direction. My preference is towards sporter stocks for rifles that are hunting first. I'd probably suffer the factory stock and wrestle with the price of a McMillan stock for a Savage action.
 
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Well - What does the extra 3 pounds get you?

Shooting a 10+ lb rifle freehand? Getting said gun off your shoulder and on target reasonably quickly? Last fall, a fella from the gun club showed up at the deer camp to make his debut at hunting. He brought his target gun, Mossberg MVP LC with 4-12 scope and bipod, no sling. He lugged that thing around for a few days, missed a shot at a deer at 50 yards ("all I saw was fur, then it was gone"). Reasonably encouraged, he immediately went out after the season closed and bought a CZ 557 carbine in 308 c/w Leupold 1.4-4 scope (and sling, no bipod).

Shooting offhand has me sold as the right answer. Never shot my precision rig offhand and likely would miss if I tried, especially if I had been carrying it for hours on end.
 
Well you live in Ontario, so here's a challenge. Take the rifle of your choice and spend a few days hiking the back country along the north shore of Lake Superior. Twenty miles of that should answer any question you have concerning rifle weight.
If you are still hunting (moving slowly through the woods hoping to spot a deer and get a good shot off) and doing it successfully while covering any amount of ground, yes, 3lbs makes a big difference. I want the rifle in my hands not slung over my shoulder or tied to a pack, it saves movement that may get me detected if the deer hasn't already and if shooting at moving game a well fitting rifle that comes up like m. If I am only go a few hundred yards



Being able to lug it around is one thing, getting a reliable shot off without deploying bipods and sandbags etc is a different story. I'm sold gentlemen, if the hunt involves extensive bushwhacking, less gun is more.
 
I feel like assembling a coyote/deer short range/mid range hybrid rifle.
I spec’d all my components and scope included I arrive at 10lbs 2oz.

What weight would be your max, scope included, for many KM hike and shorter (50-100) offhand shots?

How heavy would I go? Not sure. I'd just buy the rifle that appealed to me and just deal with it.
 
How heavy would I go? Not sure. I'd just buy the rifle that appealed to me and just deal with it.

My inclination would be 'somewhat' similar.:) Leave the rifle as you appreciate it. If the goal was/is to lessen the package weight I'm taking into the field, I'd be better off ;) me shedding a few pounds. It would be a benefit from a health prospective also.
 
I think a Savage Axis II weight would suffice in the field - losing a few pounds and not loading up on Bagels and Double Doubles before hand goes along way -
 
I think many of us here have the good fortune to own several rifles. As someone who spends a lot of time in the field (hey, I'm retired...), I enjoy playing with different rifles and actions. However, I do find that some rifles are more utilitarian than others when it comes to a specific hunting activity. The only way I know this is by trying, and I feel I've learned something in the process. And, it gives me an excuse to expand the herd!
It would be interesting to get feedback from the OP once he "gets his feet wet" All the internet conjecture in the world cannot overcome direct field experience.
 
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