How important is the compactness of a rifle? (14.5" and less AR or bullpup)

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For those who use their rifles to defend themselves or defend others or etc..., how important is the compactness of a rifle? or when does the compactness become important? I'm speaking of <16" AR's or bullpups.

getting in and out of vehicles?

parachuting?

Close quarters, lane ways, hall ways?

Lugging the rifle around with a backpack and a ton of other gear?
 
Certainly a short carbine or Bullpup would be better if you're getting in and out of vehicles with armor on. Probably not so important for the majority of the paper-punchers like myself.
 
You also have to consider the performance of the bullet from a SBR and planned range of engagement.
Balance of the weapon is actually more important than weight.
 
evolture said:
So you're saying a mk18 has a distinct advantage over the heavier Tavor?

:p
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That depends on a few factors...

1). The environment in which the op is going to take place.
2). The available kit and support for said op.
3). Infil/Exfil requirements.
4). SKILL OF THE OPERATORS.
5). Joint op requirements.

I'm mobile right now, but this a start...

-S.
 
I've talked to a reservist friend of mine about this, and he told me he had no problem using a C7A2 in any CQB training he's done. It really depends on the environment you're operating in and knowing how to use your rifle.
 
I've talked to a reservist friend of mine about this, and he told me he had no problem using a C7A2 in any CQB training he's done.
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Full Length ARs are still pretty short, especially with collapsing stocks. They work fine, but they're not the optimal solution for that environment.
 
Jarvy said:
Full Length ARs are still pretty short, especially with collapsing stocks. They work fine, but they're not the optimal solution for that environment.
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Not ideal, but definitely useable. As long as you take the C79 off, that thing's a bloody nuisance when fighting in someones back yard.

As far as vehicles go, the C7 isn't ideal for that either but there are ways around it. Usually including completely ignoring the mounted vehicle weapons racks and keeping weapons close at hand and oriented towards the hatch/hole/door they have to be extracted out of in a hurry.

Would I like to give a C8 a go? Absolutely, but the Her Majesty has only procured C7 rifles, C9 LMGs and C6 GMPGs for my use and that's the way it will likely stay for the foreseeable future.
 
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.30/06 FTW said:
I've talked to a reservist friend of mine about this, and he told me he had no problem using a C7A2 in any CQB training he's done. It really depends on the environment you're operating in and knowing how to use your rifle.
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The FIBUA/CQB training I had included working your way through wreckage and blasted buildings (moving down sewer lines, crawling through intact or wrecked vehicles to exploit cover/concealment properties thereof included) as well as using your weapon whilst within said wreckage, many times the longer rifle barrels snag more readily than the barrels of the CQBRs we were using.

-S.
 
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