How Important Is The Kill

We all enjoy success but I think that "have to be successful" attitude tends to be diminished as we age and that the hunt becomes more about the experiences and times afield with friends or family than filling the freezer. I know for myself if it was about the meat I would just stay home and shoot the animals that wander into the back 40. Why spend large amounts of $$ on gas, food and all the other supplies needed to go to camp or camp out if you can cut your tag from home?
 
How important is the kill? In about three weeks I'll re-connect with some buddies who I haven't been in personal contact with since last November. We'll lodge together, eat together, have a few toddies together (in the evenings), tell hunting stories together (essentially true stories with some embellishment) and we'll plan the next day's hunt. Hopefully we'll be successful as we have often been in the past. But supposing there is no success and I've often thought about this. I really don't think it makes a great deal of difference. It's really not about the kill, is it? It's about the camaraderie, is it not?


A safe and enjoyable hunt with my son followed by an intimate outing everyday with mother nature. A humane kill is important to me.
 
The kill is important to me but not necessary for a good trip. I think over the years big game hunting there was probably a ratio of one "kill" for every 10 days or so spent hunting so clearly it is not required however it remains the ultimate goal of the hunt.
 
It is cheaper for me to buy meat and less hassle to bring it home from the store or supplier.I eat more chicken than red meat anyways.

I will sit in my stands or blind, take some food, maybe something to read , listen to the wind , feel the tree sway back and forth, likely have a nap if the sun is in my face , wake to the wind and sound of leaves, watch some deer come by, look at the weasel that frequents the area , listen to the slow wings of ravens and fast wings of ducks , smell the pine needles on the walk out.

Oh, was I supposed to arrow or shoot something?Been many years where the bow was never drawn or the safety switched off.

Just my opinion, you kill gophers or animals when on culls , you harvest when you hunt. :)
 
I have been privileged to enjoy a long, very successful hunting career in BC and Alberta.
Many tons of game have been consumed by my family as a result.

That being said, the "kill" is nice, but not all-consuming. I thoroughly enjoy the time
I can spend in the outdoors, and at my stage in life....how many more years do I have?

At one time, I viewed a hunt without meat on the ground as "unsuccessful", but my
view has changed. I try to savor every moment I can spend in the woods, regardless
of the outcome.

So far this fall, I have spent about 75 hours in the bush...and no
game in the freezer. Not a big deal at all. Could still change, as there are several
opportunities still open for the hunt.

Regards, Dave.
 
As mainly an upland hunter now, bringing home some wild chicken doesn't mean as much to me as just having the opportunity to be on the open prarie and watching my dog work. I could stand back all day and just watch the little dog run. Hitting cover and quartering back and forth in search of pheasants, grouse or partridge. I have let my fair share of game fly away either because it was a bad shot or just as a training exercise to keep my dog honest in the field. Hunting with a dog is very rewarding.
 
Our moose hunt got cut short by snow-and we were 4 hours from paved road on a FS road with a definite timeline to get out,so we opted to leave early,even though we had located 4 bulls. But truth be told,we had had a great hunt,my boys and my hunting partner camping,sitting around the fire,telling many lies , great fishing and seeing game,so the trip was anything but a bust...yeah,of course getting a moose would have topped it off, but the trip was already a success,and will add to the reportoire of lies for next year..My wife of 44 years was happy to see me back and even more happy she didn't have a half ton of dead moose on her kitchen counter to be cut ,wrapped and frozen..
 
I tend to Agree Spank, the wisdom comes with age.. which is taking all the finer things not for granted.
being a young-er generation hunter, my prime is now so I may as well be taking the advantage of it, as I know if I am older hunter, I will be saying Gees its all great even if I don't shoot one for several trips out, nd around the campfire I can relive my young days where I shot hundreds of deers, back in the 'good ol days'

maybe

WL
 
Is hunting different than camping? We all know what the difference is, but I have a sneaking suspicion that many hunters are conditioned to avoid saying what they feel. We spend countless hours preparing: reloading, shooting, arguing about the best scope/rifle/backpack/boots....all so we can go on a camping trip in beautiful country with some of our best friends?

There is something inside us without which our species would have perished. It's in our DNA and it is not a bad thing. I like to hunt animals and part of that is killing them. I like to bring the meat home for my family. I like to share the meat with my friends and those who don't hunt. All of that makes me feel good in a very primal way. So yes, the kill is important.
 
There is something inside us without which our species would have perished. It's in our DNA and it is not a bad thing. I like to hunt animals and part of that is killing them. I like to bring the meat home for my family. I like to share the meat with my friends and those who don't hunt. All of that makes me feel good in a very primal way. So yes, the kill is important.

100%
 
This what a seasoned hunter told me years ago:

"There comes a time in the year when your neck and balls start to swell and you just have to go out and kill something"!

That being said just getting out in the fresh air with good health can on occasion curb the desire.
 
I hate camping, and I do it exclusively in order to hunt...........camping is a sh!t load of work with no point, when I have a perfectly good home in which to live, with heat, food, refrigerator, shelter etc. I have never hunted in the eastern way, with big camps full of guys, all of whom wanting to fill my tags. I hunt almost exclusively by myself or with one other person, it's nice to have someone to talk to, occasionally. However my hunting has been a lot different than most guys on this forum, most of my hunting time locally was dedicated to hunting sheep and goats with an occasional foray for caribou and lots of blackies in the spring. Not really the same experience as most of you refer to. I never really cared for moose hunting although I have done some, in these latter years, but the fun is definitely over after the loud bang. I personally place much weight of the success of a hunt on the kill. Not necessarily by myself, as some of my most enjoyable hunts have been taking my sons and friends out and getting them on game.
I have spent months prepping for sheep hunts, as mentioned, pouring over topo maps, buying, weighing and assembling just the right gear, repairing backpacks, checking, checking and rechecking rifles (that's 'cause I love shooting), dedicating many, many hours to the preparation for the hunt. Flying the area several times in the weeks prior to departure, getting a lay of the land and a handle on the populations in the area. Mapping trails and the easy walking areas, ridgelines, steep ground, shale slopes etc. I love this part of the hunt and being able to head out on a 6 day backpack hunt with less than 35 lbs including rifle and knowing you have just enough of the right gear to hunt and survive anything the weather or mountains may throw at you.
Myself and my sheep hunting partner of many years, had the same reputation as Whelen Lad referred to, when we went sheep hunting it was a foregone conclusion that two rams would die that week. When we spotted the ram we wanted, nothing, and I mean nothing would stop us until that ram was in the pack and we were looking for another one. You might say we were a tad dedicated to sheep hunting and success was most definitely measured by the size of the horns. I can honestly say that I didn't spend the time and money preparing, as well as the physical exertion, discomfort and pain in many cases, to come home empty handed. We hunted very hard and with a singular goal, and that was not to come back with empty packs, besides we had a reputation to uphold.
Not all understand this kind of hunting, it is obsessive, and don't get me wrong, we didn't just kill the first legal rams we saw, just for the sake of killing. We turned down many, many rams in our hunts and always looked for the exceptional old boys. We also have the distinction of taking the two oldest rams ever checked through game branch, in the Yukon.
It is very difficult to describe this kind of hunting to people who have not experienced it. I don't go hunting to take a break and enjoy myself, I have worked harder at hunting than anything else I have ever done in my life, period. I have come closer to death while hunting than at any other time in my life, I have found reserves in strength and character that no other activity has ever brought forth in me. I have been reduced to the primal live or die situation more than once, while sheep hunting.........and I love it.
But back to the point, which is how important is the kill? I say it depends on the person and the quarry and their reasons for doing what they are doing. If I were to return from a sheep hunt empty handed I would consider it an abject failure, meaning I didn't do my home work thoroughly enough, or I just didn't work hard enough at it, but that's just sheep/goat hunting. Have I mentioned that I have been labeled a "Hard A type personality and an extreme over achiever"
The whole point of hunting is the kill, without it, it's just camping..........did I mention I hate camping.
 
Hunting is like ### .........half the fun is the buildup to the final outcome..........rest then repeat..........Harold
 
Maybe some would be better off taking up camping. I also don't think it is a good idea to drink and have firearms around just like I don't think it is a good idea to drink sitting in a vehicle. Things have a lot more chance of going wrong. It's just common sense in my books but then again common sense is like a super power these days.
 
Whitetail Deer has turned out to be our (me & wifey) primary source of meat over the past few years, so the kill is very important to us.

That said, I really enjoy my time in the woods, which I seem to have less and less of over the years.

I've almost always hunted in a group, and it nearly makes me as happy to have a new hunter shoot his first deer while at our camp than to shoot one myself.

Ryan
 
Interesting question..... interesting responses......

Is the actual kill important to me?, yes and no......

Walking around with a gun without an intention or effort put in to kill is not "hunting" in my opinion..... it's just a long hike with a gun...

To me, the aspect and the potential of the kill as well as the goal of being successful is what makes me love it.... if I was "successful" every time I went afield I would likely get bored of it as the challenge would be gone.... and each different hunt has it's own success criteria for me...... if I head out for ruffles and shoot a double, that was a successful hunt because it made a memory..... if I head out for duck, and shoot one, that's not successful to me because I could do better and my calling and timing likely sucked......

As for big game, if I head out on day one and bag an animal that meets my need, well, it's hard to not say I was successful..... but it's still a lunch bag letdown because I have robbed myself of more hunting time (I have learned to supplement this by hunting other species that are in season).....

I consider hunting a pursuit where every minute doing it is a "positive minute"...... fresh air, exercise, focus and concentration on a noble goal and an enriching experience..... I am never unhappy while partaking in it, i enjoy every aspect of it and I completely enjoy nature...... and the harsher the elements, the harder the terrain and the work and perseverance only either add to the sense of satisfaction on having tried, or they make the kill that much more valuable....
 
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