How its done over here

TimC

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I thought perhaps if you folks had a chance to see how we take our sport over here then a lot of myths about how everything here is banned might be put to bed and save me a lot of time.
Fieldsports Britain
No sales pitch just a good way to see field sports via you tube professionally produced not some hayseed with a mobile phone. I'd like to compare it to Canada in the Wild which I last saw in 2006!
 
After the mention of Zeiss And Swarovski Optics in the same breath... "FieldSports" in the UK are obviously not a "Middle Class Mans" opportunity.
 
I am sure Tim will respond, but you are right on some levels, it does cost $$.

However, it is not as "out of reach" for the general public as you might think. For example, Roe stalking can be had from as little as 100 BP per day (I believe Tim has said before there are even more affordable options), though you will likely have to purchase the carcass per pound at the end of the day if you plan on eating it.

Field sports (hunting, shooting, fishing, etc.) are HUGELY popular in the UK. Stalking is quite reasonable compared to a lot of bird hunting opportunities. But there is also pigeon hunting, rabbit hunting, ferreting, etc. that are a lot more reasonable yet.

If you take into consideration the amount of money we spend on gear, including trucks and quads, etc. then hunting in the UK is not nearly as expensive as you think. Not everyone there shoots Blazer and Swarovski, lots of people have Remingtons with Bushnell scopes. If you watch Canada in the Rough do you assume every Canadian hunter shoots a Sako and drives a $50,000 Dodge P/U?
 
Field sports (hunting, shooting, fishing, etc.) are HUGELY popular in the UK. Stalking is quite reasonable compared to a lot of bird hunting opportunities. But there is also pigeon hunting, rabbit hunting, ferreting, etc. that are a lot more reasonable yet.
X2. Driven bird shooting is expensive but rough or walk up shooting can be quite reasonable. Wood pigeon shooting is a favourite and they are great eating.
 
Thanks for posting :cheers:

I truly enjoy the hunting posts from different parts of the world. It is good to know hunting and shooting still happen over there.
 
Nothing but a bunch of SNOBS.
Nice one,:jerkit: I run a shooting syndicate for pheasant and woodcock and I also teach deerstalking and guide. Now there is one member of my pheasant syndicate that is a solictor, the rest are builders, bakers, butchers, professional people but not snobs in any way.
If you mean Charlie Jacoby is a snob then he cant help the way he speaks, he was raised that way.
Me I was born in Lancashire, raised in cornwall and spent my formative adult years in the Army as a private soldier until I left and settled to work in Sussex. Nothing posh there trust me. Those deerstalkers all had common midland accents, nothing snobby there either!
Scroll through the collection on you tube and enjoy.
As for cost well yes if you can afford the best then you buy, I have owned Rigby rifles with Zeiss scopes but the best I can afford at the time, I mainly use CZ with S&B. My syndicate costs ÂŁ250 last year to be a member and for that they got 10 driven days, and 365 days of rabbit, pigeon and squirrel shooting.
I have picked up using my dogs on commercial shoots where the birds were ÂŁ37 each and 500 were shot, all were sold to a game dealer. Not my wallet or my taste but fun to be part off.
I run stalking for as little as ÂŁ75 an outing with somedays no carcasse fee (take it if you want it otherwise I will).
The fee covers my time and insurance.
There are many days available on large estates known as boundary days where for ÂŁ100 you can have a great days shooting with lunch thrown in.
Tomorrow we have beaters day on our shoot. Theguns all turn out and beat for the youngsters who have done it all season. They then get fed at the pub. The younger ones get coached by guns as well. No cost to them and they get paid for their work during the season.
If you are ver over here drop me a line, I can always arrange an impromptu day of walk and stand for friends from over the pond. Just bring enough to tip the beaters and get in a round of drinks.
 
Fill yer boots, you can subscribe to them on you tube and there is also another one called field and rural life. we appear on that sometimes, I'll put up a link.
 
Thanks for posting I really enjoyed the show, I am slowly working my way through all the episodes. Some of the things that go on are deffinetely different, the one standards are higher, in Canada there is no way we would be able to use rifles in close proximity to highways and houses the way it is done in Britain. I really like the variety of game available at various times of the year, you folks don't suffer from hunter's withdrawal during the winter the way we do here.
 
We shoot all year, weather isnt that important unless a freeze stops wildfowling for welfare concerns. You can stalk every day of the year here for there is always something in sseason and there is always small game and pests to be controlled. Its harder to get people together to take the time off for shooting than having too short a season. Game birds are really Sept/Oct to end of Jan. deer all years (### and species rules apply) no bag limit and no MNR to pull your truck over and get nosey. That said there is no such thing as public hunting land but we dont have to apply for tags/permits or get restricted to certain areas by a lottery!
In fact you can shoot here with no license and no training, just need to be "accompanied".
 
though you will likely have to purchase the carcass per pound at the end of the day if you plan on eating it.

This, I think, illustrates the major differences between hunting in our country. From that comment one can easily percieve (rightly or wrongly) that the whole point of hunting in England is the killing. Where as here, far and away, hunting precisely for the meat is a major factor. Now im not naieve enough to think that every hunt in NA is a meat hunt, but that comment just struck me as odd.
 
This, I think, illustrates the major differences between hunting in our country. From that comment one can easily percieve (rightly or wrongly) that the whole point of hunting in England is the killing. Where as here, far and away, hunting precisely for the meat is a major factor. Now im not naieve enough to think that every hunt in NA is a meat hunt, but that comment just struck me as odd.
All game meat in the UK is for consumption, should you decide not to take a brace of birds with you at the end of the day (or a deer carcasse) then you are not thought less off. You have a sporting tradition that comes from Hunting to feed the family wheras we have the hunting tradition thats devolved from the sporting gentry.
The majority of shooting here is pot filling but done with salute to the sporting heritage wheras stalking here has grown since the 1960's and the first deer act which regulated the animals above the status of agricultural pestt for the first time. We are now at the point where deer are so populous that we need to cull large numbers continuously to stay on top of the numbers game.
One 3 mile stretch of road near me only 30 minutes from London saw 1 deer related RTA on average every day last year.
Now bearing in mind the law on selling game goes back over 100 years and is arcane the recent meat hygene lgislation has compounnded the situation to the point where even casual stalkers (3 or 4 times a year) are encouraged to take the meat inspectors course (trained hunters cert) allowing the transfer of locally shot game into the human food chain for consumption.
Also legally the fallen game is owned by the land owner so is offered the carcasse which in reality means many estates actually sell the venbison commercially for export so it will need to be paid for as its another revenue stream.
even if you shoot ground for free you often offer the land owner the carcasse as a thankyou.
Now if you want to take the carcasse that is encouraged but should you be assisting with a doe cull in november to April there may be more than you can handle and its best placed back into the food chain. The kill isnt the aim of stalking, its a part no doubt, I have yet to meet a stalker who isnt enjoying being in the woods at dawn away from work and worries alone with nature. Many stalk for months before they get a deer, its often the way, few complain, the privelige of being able to stalk is a great one and shouldnt be underestimated.
 
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