How Light is Too Light?

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Last week I installed the Apex forward set sear and aluminum trigger kit in my M&P pro series 40L and was immediately impressed. It lowered take up and over travel significantly and the trigger pull was consistently at 4.25 pounds. I was hoping to get it down to 2.75 - 3 pounds so this morning I put the trigger return spring from the Apex competition action enhancement kit in. I also adjusted the trigger bar loop a little more so the trigger breaks shortly after the trigger safety disconnects and the trigger begins to move. There is very little take up now. The trigger feels close to that of my 1911 now. Wow!

But that dropped the trigger pull to 2.25 pounds.

So now I'm asking myself what is is too light of a pull? Would you feel comfortable with that light of a trigger?

Can I get your input, opinion, experience?

Thanks.
 
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depends on what your using it for. I personally wouldn't use that for anything but target work or plinking on the range, and would consider it too light for holster work in IDPA or IPSC competition, but that's my personal choice.
 
Before the sear packed it in on my Shadow, the trigger was measured at 6lbs double action and just over 1lb single action :eek:.
With the Apex kit in my M&P45, I'm getting ~4lbs.
My tuned 1911 has got to be below 2lbs.
I actually can't measure my Vostok MU2-3. I believe it to be in low double digit grams.

It's really up to the shooter. If the gun is safe, and you practice good trigger discipline, then you should be OK....or not....I'm not you.
IMHO, ~2lbs is fine.

(E) :cool:
 
Anything over 2 pounds is good to holster in my books, if not we would have quite the bunch of people in ipsc that arent safe, but thats not the case
 
I know people with 1 lb trigger for ipsc, mine I like them at 2.5lbs just because I like to prep my finger on the trigger a little so the extra resistance helps
 
I remember some comments Richard Boone (Paladin) made about his custom-made SAA in "Have Gun, Will Travel".

"I want you to take a look at this gun. Those lines in the barrel are rifling, a feature seldom found in a handgun. The balance is perfect. The trigger pull is one ounce."

Regard this as proof that script-writers circa 1960 knew no more about guns than they do now.
 
For me, with a striker fired gun (no safety), 2.25lbs is too light. I attend courses every year where there is a lot of movement; around other students, barricades, kneeling, prone etc. I want a "safer" trigger system. This is a big part of the reason I made the switch to TDA guns and have always run "duty" approved triggers in my striker fired guns.
 
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686 Shooter said:
I also adjusted the trigger bar loop a little more so the trigger breaks shortly after the trigger safety disconnects and the trigger begins to move. There is very little take up now. The trigger feels close to that of my 1911 now. Wow!
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Have you shot it since tweaking it? I tweaked mine down to the point of dead trigger syndrome. Every other mag I would encounter a dead trigger. Had to back mine out a bit to eliminate the issue. Not so much 1911ish now, but close.

The Apex kit is WOW. I agree.

M
 
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How Light is Too Light? Update!

So I did some more tinkering. I took out the trigger return spring that was giving me the 2.25 pound pull and replaced it with the factory return spring. This now gives me a consistent 3 pound trigger pull. Right where I wanted it. So here is what I found with my M&P Pro Series 40L:

Apex competition AEK = 3.5 pound trigger pull.
Apex forward set sear and trigger kit = 4.25 pound trigger pull.
Apex forward set sear and trigger kit with competition AEK trigger return spring = 2.25 pound trigger pull.
Apex forward set sear and trigger kit with factory trigger return spring = 3 pound trigger pull.

I figured I would post these results as it may save somebody some time to get the pull weight they want. I would imagine the weights would be similar for all M&P's.
 
686 Shooter said:
Last week I installed the Apex forward set sear and aluminum trigger kit in my M&P pro series 40L and was immediately impressed. It lowered take up and over travel significantly and the trigger pull was consistently at 4.25 pounds. I was hoping to get it down to 2.75 - 3 pounds so this morning I put the trigger return spring from the Apex competition action enhancement kit in. I also adjusted the trigger bar loop a little more so the trigger breaks shortly after the trigger safety disconnects and the trigger begins to move. There is very little take up now. The trigger feels close to that of my 1911 now. Wow!

But that dropped the trigger pull to 2.25 pounds.

So now I'm asking myself what is is too light of a pull? Would you feel comfortable with that light of a trigger?

Can I get your input, opinion, experience?

Thanks.
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It depends. I have both of my target handguns set at 1.5 lbs but these are strictly paper punching precision guns. For more general use I find my 1911 at about 4.5lbs to be good. My Sig is a bit heavier and I find I get a wider group due to the increased difficulty in controlling gun movement. For pure target the lighter the better, some long range precision guys use less than 1lb but these are sniper calibre marksmen with very high skill levels. Off course with very light triggers safety issues can become a concern as if you are not very careful you can get a second round fired or an accidental fire from a light touch of the trigger. Finger outside the guard until ready to shoot.
 
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