How Many 358 Winchester Fans Have We Got Here??

A 308 with heavy Partitions will do anything a 358Win will do.

............:rey2.............the .358win made the big bear defense cryteria.

Read this awn the net, so it must be correctuhmundoe.


Edititted so Slamfires posted info below don't make a liar out of me.................:redface:
 
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...but with no panache...

If you like "panache", that's fine but I don't like the sound of it.

Panache

Panache#(French pronunciation:#​[panaʃ]) is a word of French origin that carries the connotation of flamboyant manner and reckless courage.

The literal translation is a#plume, such as is worn on a hat or a helmet, but the reference is to King#Henry IV of France#(13 December 1553 – 14 May 1610).#
 
A bolt action 358 is currently sitting in the No. 1 spot of "sporting rifles I will buy next". One of the Rugers at Prophet River is looking mighty fine.
 
I too love the 35s!! I was able to order a BLR stainless takedown in 358 win and picked it up over the Christmas season. I've got a forward mounted burris scout 2-7 with quick release rings and a Skinner Lo-Pro that screws into the rear scope base screw hole. I love it!! It shoots my pistol loads into a single hole at 25 yards and Hornady factory ammo into 1.25 inch 3 shoot groups at 100 yards. I've got some loads ready to fire with some Barnes 180 gr and 200 gr bullets. These are loaded with TAC powder to the new Hornady reloading manual numbers. I had the tipped bullets so unfortunately I could not reach the max loads due to compression and max COAL. Some pretty hot loads in the new Hornady manual with TAC but it really looks to be the magic powder for the 358 according to this new data. This is my first 358 Win. Currently I also shoot a 35 Whelen that I had built of a Savage action (my most accurate firearm of all) and a Rem 7600 Carbine in 35 Whelen. I also have an unfired Whelen Ruger 1A that is still a virgin. And.... for the big boomer I built a 358 Norma last year again with a Shilen barrel on a savage action and a bedded Boyd's Laminate stock. I have so many 358 cal projectiles its not funny! Can't have too many! The next thing I have been contemplating is the Ruger 77/357 or whether to build a 35/300 WSM... Decisions.....Decisions.... What I would love to acquire would be one of the Ruger Frontiers as I really love handy little carbines or I wish Savage or Ruger would do there scout rifles in a 358 Win. How awesome would the new Savage Scout be in 358Win!!!

You have my permission to kick me in the butt should we ever meet. I turned down an opportunity to buy a Schultz and Larsen M65 rifle chambered in .358 Norma Magnum 40 years ago. Unfortunately, I had just bought my first house and had to sell my custom 1965 Chevrolet 4X4 SWB Step-Side PU truck, my 1964 Buick Riviera, and my sailboat to come up with enough money for the down payment to assume the existing mortgage. I was barely able to scrape together $350 to buy a beat-up 1972 Pontiac station wagon after buying the house let alone $900 for the rifle.
 
Short range factory load performances compared from a rather interesting study done in 1983. See background. Pertains to Grizzly stomping but applicable to heavy game in general because key indicators include energy, penetration, retained weight and expansion ratio.

The 358 with a 200gr bullet ranks #14 out of 33 rifles considered. Should rank higher than that with a heavier bullet. For other rounds, rankings would likely be subject to change using bullets other than those listed.

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From Safety In Bear Country: Protective Measures And Bullet Performance At Short Ranges, by Meehan & Thilenius.
 
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For what it's worth, "Mr. 270" (Jack O'Conner) in a 1962 article entitled Deer and Deer Rifles, wrote that he "... regards the neglected and obsolescent .358 Winchester cartridge with its 200-grain bullet at 2,530 or its 250-grain bullet at 2,250 as probably the most deadly woods cartridge in existence, not only for deer but for elk and even moose. The .358 has the power and weight to drive deep on the rear-end shot, which the woods hunter all too often has to take."

Obsolescent in 1962- ? - funny. Been reading that sort of assessment by gun writers for many decades. Wrong IMO. Neglected - OK maybe.
 
Short range factory load performances compared from a rather interesting study done in 1983. See background. Pertains to Grizzly stomping but applicable to heavy game in general because key indicators include energy, penetration, retained weight and expansion ratio.

The 358 with a 200gr bullet ranks #14 out of 33 rifles considered. Should rank higher than that with a heavier bullet. For other rounds, rankings would likely be subject to change using bullets other than those listed.

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From Safety In Bear Country: Protective Measures And Bullet Performance At Short Ranges, by Meehan & Thilenius.

1982-1983 some readers here were not even born ....
 
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