How many C1A1's made it?

Curtton has got his pic of a fine lookin rifle, so I won't repeat the same. But here is one for night time deployment. Just another variation of kit.
This is my 8L gun, ex OPP. I paid huge money for it like a dummy, $1000, when you could get most any FN derivative for about $400 max. And of course the 7-11s are now safe from it.

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Looking at those C2 photos takes me back to a fine day on the Wainwright ranges when I used one with tracers to do target indications for CF5s on a FAC course. The zoomies had no trouble picking up the trace on their way in from the IP.
 
koldt said:
Curtton has got his pic of a fine lookin rifle, so I won't repeat the same. But here is one for night time deployment. Just another variation of kit.
This is my 8L gun, ex OPP. I paid huge money for it like a dummy, $1000, when you could get most any FN derivative for about $400 max. And of course the 7-11s are now safe from it.

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Gorgeous, I love that wood on it. Thanks for posting the pics.:D Now, if our Oh so logical laws ever change... You wanna part with it:yingyang::p;)
 
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curtton said:
most are clones including the pic you attached , meaning the receiver, barrel and internal parts are not canadian . heres a 8L that belongs to my bro-inlaw.
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I had a couple of L1A1's back in the day that I Canadianized with some spare parts. The rifles were only around $200, so a good way to end up with a C1A1 for a quarter of the price.

Loved my C2, used to wear the bra as a thigh rig. Xstraps around waist and ties around thigh, excellent way to still access the 30rders while prone.

As for C1's and kick,it wasn't bad unless you had a smartass set your gas to 0 when you weren't looking.:D
 
*crash* said:
I had a couple of L1A1's back in the day that I Canadianized with some spare parts. The rifles were only around $200, so a good way to end up with a C1A1 for a quarter of the price.
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lol, i did one too .

to do that now , the C1A1 parts will cost you more than the L1A1 rifle .
 
curtton said:
most are clones including the pic you attached , meaning the receiver, barrel and internal parts are not canadian
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Pardon my ignorance, but is there something I could look for that would be a dead giveaway that it's a clone? When I saw the "8L4283" serial number and some of the other markings on the images over at falfiles.com, having an untrained eye I automatically assumed it was the real deal.

I should also confess that the closest I've ever come to a C1A1 is listening to my ex's brother-in-law talk lovingly of the C1A1's he worked with as an airborne platoon commander in the 80's. At the time, I had no clue about FN-FAL's, and I always wondered why the tone of his voice would drop and his disposition would change whenever a FAL was mentioned. I really looked up to Ed, so hearing him show respect for the FAL set me down the road of wanting to learn more about them.


Fast forward to the mid 2000's when I renewed my long expired license and started buying up all the guns I couldn't afford when I was younger, only to discover that while I was hibernating all the laws had changed and I could no longer buy a FAL:-(
 
grox6 said:
Pardon my ignorance, but is there something I could look for that would be a dead giveaway that it's a clone? When I saw the "8L4283" serial number and some of the other markings on the images over at falfiles.com, having an untrained eye I automatically assumed it was the real deal. (
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if you are really interested in the FAL , i would suggest getting a book by R Blake stevens , the fal rifle . it will show all the differences between the fals .

back to the clone, it was well done, receiver and barrel are hard to come by so they said they made the barrel in the US, receiver too bcos the DSA inc on the receiver is an american company .

and about the SN, they have them stamped.
 
Klunk is the king of prohibs. After displaying with him at an Edmonton show, I knew that there was no point in competing! He has the rare accessories and the guns that most of us mortals will never own.

That said, I have an ex-OPP 8L Series C1A1 that goes back a few years. It is so mint that it doesn't even have any scratches on the butt-plate.

A bit of trivia - the company that bought the ex-OPP C1A1s was SIDEM UK. They are the same surplus firearms dealer that sourced, modified, and sold to other Commonwealth countries the Portuguese and Sudanese-surplus original AR-10 rifles from 1959-1960.

Not to mention the 3 x converted-auto C1 SMGs (Sterlings) that are in private hands in Canada. I know, because I have a copy of the original invoice coming from the Congo (based on an earllier Canadian military assistance sale) that has my gun's serial number listed with 3 other Canadian xS###x numbers on the import list. There are a grand total of 3 x CA Canadian manufactured C1 SMGs in private hands in Canada.

Just a bit of info on a select group of Canadian prohibs for anyone who is interested.
 
Bartok5 said:
Klunk is the king of prohibs. After displaying with him at an Edmonton show, I knew that there was no point in competing! He has the rare accessories and the guns that most of us mortals will never own.

That said, I have an ex-OPP 8L Series C1A1 that goes back a few years. It is so mint that it doesn't even have any scratches on the butt-plate.

A bit of trivia - the company that bought the ex-OPP C1A1s was SIDEM UK. They are the same surplus firearms dealer that sourced, modified, and sold to other Commonwealth countries the Portuguese and Sudanese-surplus original AR-10 rifles from 1959-1960.

Not to mention the 3 x converted-auto C1 SMGs (Sterlings) that are in private hands in Canada. I know, because I have a copy of the original invoice coming from the Congo (based on an earllier Canadian military assistance sale) that has my gun's serial number listed with 3 other Canadian xS###x numbers on the import list. There are a grand total of 3 x CA Canadian manufactured C1 SMGs in private hands in Canada.

Just a bit of info on a select group of Canadian prohibs for anyone who is interested.
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If you don't mind me asking, how much was one of those C1A1's going for back when you bought yours?

Also, what year did you buy it?

Thanks!:)
 
There are both CAs and FAs around of the SMG C1 in private hands in Canada. That online registry from the Ottawa Citizen listed about a dozen or so. It was hard to tell exactly because they were registered a multitude of different ways, since most were not verified but merely transferred over from the old green slip system.

I can only possess the dewats unfortunately, and as a result, I have bought several live, had them transferred to smiths and then they were deactivated. Others I bought as dewats, one from collectors source and one from a private sale (ex DCRA gun)

Here are some shots from photobucket of my Cdn FNs:
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This is the corner of my gun room where the FN era stuff sits. In the cabinet now sits 2 FNC1A1s, A FNC2A1, a EX1 CDN, and a SMG C1. All are neutered. I also have a C1A1 presently live with a friend who is licensed for 12.5. It is likely going to be neutered when I get home. Problem is that I have a number of accessories (early NV scope, Later night vision scope, Elcan sniper scope etc ) that need rifles to display them on. My apologies to the guys who can still own them alive, but I am usually willing to pay the price to buy them for deactivation. My apologies also for all the junk blocking the cabinet. This room seems to have been getting progressively smaller in the last couple of years.

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The above rifle was listed on the sales invoice shown in Blake Steven's early FAL book. It was interesting in that it had the early style of front sight block on a very late 8L rifle. This rifle was very close to the end of C1A1 production, possibly only 3 or 4 from the end.
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The above rifle was from Dave Tomlinson's collection. It is one of the EX1 trials rifles. After the C1A1s were adopted, they remained in CF inventory as cadet drill rifles and for issue to the airborne school as jump rifles.
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The above photos are of another C1A1 (ex-OPP) and my C2A1 (bought live F/A from the EE as an estate gun).
I thought I had a photo of my C1 SMG, but it turned out they were photos of the police carbine, so no point putting that on here.

The LCMM in charge of all these small arms told me that 300 of each type were retained for museum and study purposes. The remainder all went for the hot red bath.
 
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