How many lee enfields were made?

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Including all lee enfields and variations is there a rough number that were made? Ball park I know they were made in different countries.
 
MLE and CLLE about a million
SMLE about 7 million
No 4 about 5 million
Others - a couple hundred thousand
Very rough figures, as a lot of rifles were refurbished
 
Ganderite said:
I think Savage made the most #4s. Or, at least, that is what a sign at the Savage plant says.
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That is correct, about 1,236,000 according to Charles Stratton. Next would be ROF Fazakerley with a total of about 1,015,000, including post war production. ROF Fazakerley also built about 170,000 No 5 rifles.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Thinking Indian production has to be up there and of course the mostly hand made Pashtun ones as well.

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According to Ian Skennerton, total production of the SMLE at Ishapore was 1,403,020. This is the best estimate of figures. It could be more. They only made the SMLE.
 
Going through Ian Skennerton's book I have added up the following figures. These are still not exact and the real totals may never be known.

Production:
Early models including MLE's: 2,043,480
SMLE all models: 7,336,376
The Number four: 4,981,849
The number five: 252,548
Others, including 22's and snipers: 125,249

Total production, all types: 14,739,502
For what it is worth, many of the figures were 'rounded'

Biggest producers:

Enfield: 3,569,552
BSA: 2,666,900
Fazakerley: 1,590,720
Ishapore: 1,403,020
Savage: 1,236,706
Long Branch: 910,810
Shirley: 746,329
Maltby: 737000
London Small Arms: 733,300
Lithgow: 640,580
Sparkwood: 279,376

Feel free to produce your own lists!! I make no claim to be an authority! Also, the two lists will NOT cross add.
 
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plinker 777 said:
Just enough to win the Boar War, WW1, WW2 we'll call Korea and Malaysia(Burma) a draw. What's the next thread, how many .303 mkvii rounds were produced? :p
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I would call Malaysia a win! And I have no idea how many rounds of 303 mk VII rounds were produced; or of what types; or how many manufacturers there were ........ hmmmmmm!
 
Gibbs505 said:
Going through Ian Skennerton's book I have added up the following figures. These are still not exact and the real totals may never be known.

Production:
Early models including MLE's: 2,043,480
SMLE all models: 7,336,376
The Number four: 4,981,849
The number five: 252,548
Others, including 22's and snipers: 125,249

Total production, all types: 14,739,502
For what it is worth, many of the figures were 'rounded'

Biggest producers:

Enfield: 3,569,552
BSA: 2,666,900
Fazakerley: 1,590,720
Ishapore: 1,403,020
Savage: 1,236,706
Long Branch: 910,810
Shirley: 746,329
Maltby: 737000
London Small Arms: 733,300
SAparkwood: 279,376

Feel free to produce your own lists!! I make no claim to be an authority! Also, the two lists will NOT cross add.
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Nice list .. thanks, had no idea there were so many manufacturers
 
There were more producers.

Standard Small Arms was a private company, taken over by the Government. It produced just about the same number of SMLEs as London Small Arms, some marked SSA, some marked NRF.

SparkBROOK was a Government arsenal on the outskirts of Birmingham, made rifles for the Army, sold to BSA, taken back, sold again and again. I have 1-1/2 rifles they made in 1897. They make me VERY happy; I looked almost 40 years for a good Sparkie.

Don't know about anywhere/when else, but Canedian Inspectors inspected just over 4,000,000,000 rounds of .303 during the Second World War. Little yellow Gummint book, "Military Inspection Services in Canada", has a LOT of interesting stuff..... horse harness, horse gasmasks, leather bandoleers...... all that old junk that we all love so much.
 
What about the 'peddled scheme' Enfields made after Dunkirk? The ones simply stamped England. Were they attributed to one of the manufacturers?
 
Seem to have forgotten the 2a/2a1 Ishapore Lee Enfields of which there were approximately 500,000 produced. Unless those were included in the SMLE count they deserve a place of there own on that list.
 
kennymo said:
What about the 'peddled scheme' Enfields made after Dunkirk? The ones simply stamped England. Were they attributed to one of the manufacturers?
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Peddled scheme rifles are from WW1 not after Dunkirk. NRF, SSA and LSA made them. Just rifles assembled from parts made by other manufacturers in shops that just assembled rifles.
 
smellie said:
There were more producers.

Standard Small Arms was a private company, taken over by the Government. It produced just about the same number of SMLEs as London Small Arms, some marked SSA, some marked NRF.

SparkBROOK was a Government arsenal on the outskirts of Birmingham, made rifles for the Army, sold to BSA, taken back, sold again and again. I have 1-1/2 rifles they made in 1897. They make me VERY happy; I looked almost 40 years for a good Sparkie.

Don't know about anywhere/when else, but Canedian Inspectors inspected just over 4,000,000,000 rounds of .303 during the Second World War. Little yellow Gummint book, "Military Inspection Services in Canada", has a LOT of interesting stuff..... horse harness, horse gasmasks, leather bandoleers...... all that old junk that we all love so much.
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Yup, Kick myself in the ass for not buying a set of horse goggles a few years back.Would be valuable to me for my collection.
 
kennymo said:
What about the 'peddled scheme' Enfields made after Dunkirk? The ones simply stamped England. Were they attributed to one of the manufacturers?
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mr.e moose said:
Peddled scheme rifles are from WW1 not after Dunkirk. NRF, SSA and LSA made them. Just rifles assembled from parts made by other manufacturers in shops that just assembled rifles.
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I belive that the peddled scheme rifles from NRF were included in the Enfield totals. As was SSA. LSA is above.
 
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