How many rds for combat???

Steiner said:
My grandfather said that in WW2 when he got conscripted into the Red Army, he got a box of 15rds, no rifle. He was in the third wave of the attack. He was told to run behind the main attack and pick up a rifle from one of the dead soldiers in the 1st or 2nd wave. Fifteen round battle load - easy to carry. Guess then didn't expect you to get off more than 15rds before you bought the farm.:(
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That was just like the scenario that Jude Law was in, in the movie, Enemy at the Gates. That would definitely suck the big one...
 
Armedsask said:
To back on topic of how much ammo you guys carry...

How many chocolate bars do you guys carry? Do they go in your chest rig/tac-vest for quick access or do you keep them in you patrol bag?
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I carried about 5 Eatmore chocy bars on me at all times stuffed in my RAID pack, great for quick energy and do not melt as easily as Mars bars or snickers.
I tried carrying one in my thigh pocket but the wrapper broke causing my pants pocket to be covered in a slimy goo for about 30 days or so.:D
 
Armedsask said:
To back on topic of how much ammo you guys carry...

How many chocolate bars do you guys carry? Do they go in your chest rig/tac-vest for quick access or do you keep them in you patrol bag?
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In the pic of my loadout, near the top of the vest are a few Power Gels and Gatorade packets. That is all I carried for quick energy and such....

Most stuff went in the day pack.....BTW Chocolate and the heat of Afghanistan don't mix well.;)
 
I missed the inital GPS stupidty -- but the CF does issue the Garmin GPS - along with the other stuff.
As for loc of FOB's etc, the enemy has a pretty clear idea of where they are.
 
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We used to 'have' to carry 7 mags and a bandoleer in butt pack or ruck, but most guys I know added two more mag pouches for 12 plus the one in the rifle and whatever they could carry stuffed in other pockets etc.
 
i remember in cadets stripping IMPs my first ex that was intresting people threw all kinds of usefull stuff away

on the ? of grub can any one suggest a light weight meal thats eazy on the walet i am hlaf way considerign building a personal frease dryer to save money would love to do more camping but those commercail foods look so expensive
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
That nugget seems to have come from the PPCLI Roto 1 or 2. There were several blogs and internet digests that were circulating as everybody was very curious to know how the boys were doing and what was working. The way I remember the 6 and 4 comment was, 6 mags to start the firefight and 4 to finish it.
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from another forum:

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Re: Lessons for the Infantry in Afghanistan
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2006, 17:33:38 »

I've almost got an AAR for a TIC in Garmser finished, but forgot to add the 'lessons learned' part of the Sangin fight

1- grenades, use lots of grenades, between the 4 of us we had 1 grenade left at the end of the fight
2- we generally carried 10 mags- rule of thumb for my guys was 6 mags to pick a fight, and 4 to get you out, meaning that was a transitional point for us if we had no immediate resup, at the end of that fight we had 2 ish mags each and last drum on C-9
3- M-72's arm effectively at 25m, which is the range that fight started at, then it got close- the M-72 is the 'Canadian RPG', timmie hates them, it penetrated a wall that was about a foot thick and had a great cone' effect on the far side
4-all of the drills worked-practice whatever drills your using alot, gunfighter program is awesome
5- ambush drill can/should be on call, once suppresion is achieved- no use rushing until then
6- soft soil is good- the RPG round went in deep before going off
7- yelling 'hey you' should not be used to initiate contact.... "
 
I never leave the house with less then 400 rounds for my SKS...
200 for use at the range, and another 200 to refill my chest bandolier for the drive home...In case of Zombie attack of course. :p :D

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^I can't wait for z-day!

I've got about 1900 rounds of czech surplus ammo sitting around, just waiting for a pack of zombies.


ps, do you actually have one of those bandoliers? Does it just hold a bunch of stripper clips? Where can I get one? :D
 
You can usually pickup those bandoleers at gunshows for $10-15. They used to come with the rifles, back in the day when you would get a cleaning kit with the rifle also.

CHeaper than Dirt. com has for $10 usd. That's the ebay price too. Ebay shipping will be cheaper usually. Gunshow is your best bet.
 
Beans and rice. Superstore carries a bean medley and rice in bulk, along with mixed dried vegtables. 1 cup of each in a gallon of water will make enough soup to feed two hungry people 2 nutritionally balanced meals. Barley can be substituted for rice. Along with salt and some dried chili for seasoning, and flour and yeast for sourdough or flat bread, you can fit enough of this stuff into a five gallon drum to last 2 people a month or two, and cost less than a night out.

AlderTK said:
i remember in cadets stripping IMPs my first ex that was intresting people threw all kinds of usefull stuff away

on the ? of grub can any one suggest a light weight meal thats eazy on the walet i am hlaf way considerign building a personal frease dryer to save money would love to do more camping but those commercail foods look so expensive
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spi said:
What I wonder about is not ammo, or chocolate, but water.

How much water is normally carried? Are camel-backs pretty common, etc...?
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I carried a 3 litre Camelbak and a few 500 ml bottles of water in my pockets to drink and toss to help conserve the water in my Camelbak. This way I would keep it as an operational reserve in case of no immediate resupply.
 
There's not much opsec the enemy could recover from a civy gps that they don't already know, there's no hiding spots in Afghanistan.
 
Ducimus said:
There's not much opsec the enemy could recover from a civy gps that they don't already know, there's no hiding spots in Afghanistan.
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Bingo to add what you said. When we think they don't know, They know, Someone always watching, If its a farmer, Little Child etc. They find out, Then they get told..They're not as stupid as we think....May live simple lives and not that educated, but doesn't mean they're stupid. They knew our routes, where we traveled, where FOB's were. IF they did not know, then they wouldn't Hit on wile driving or rocket camps or FOB's or where to set up mines...
 
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Terrorists are extremely resourceful & high tech. They have lots of expertise to commit internet frauds, money laundry and other cyberspace crimes. Their ability to use high tech to trigger IEDs & defeat counter measures is another proof they are no fools. I would think dissecting a GPS for intel would not be a problem to them.
 
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