How Many Rounds Do You Shoot - CAS?

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Hi all,

I am trying to get a rough idea of how many rounds folks who regularly participate in CAS shoot on a yearly basis for practice and competition with maybe some general breakdown between the two and perhaps a breakdown between revolver, shotgun and rifle rounds. This will give me some idea of what to expect and budget for. I don't have much time to reload but I may have to make some time if it is just too cost prohibitive. As always - thanks very much!
 
Each stage,10, 10, 4. Match's 4 to 6 in a day. Times how many match's per year. Practice, dry fire, or if you wish go for live fire if you can get the ammo.

Decade ago 25 match's a year was normal and 10,000 rounds and a couple case of shotgun shells.

Sadly you are late to the good times.
 
My winter practice on an indoor range starts about this time every year after the last outdoor match is shot, with anywhere from 800-900 rds down range a month (Nov-April), I shoot once a week on Wednesdays. My wife and I both shoot at least 20-25 matches a year depending on circumstances. Each day match will see EACH of us put down range at least 60 pistol, 60 rifle and approx 24-30 shotgun. I try to start the season (in May) ready for matches, with 1,800 rds of pistol and 1,800 rds of rifle and at least 3-4 flats of shotgun, for EACH of us. This way I don't need to reload again until the middle of August. My wife shoots .38 Spl & 12 ga. I shoot .44Mag, .45LC & 12 gauge. By the way, I love retirement! This does not include ammunition for Long Range Lever Action Rifle, ammunition for Long Range Buffalo Rifle, ammunition for BAMM matches and ammunition for side matches that happen at +2 day Main Matches.
 
Hello Johnny
Vicious may right about the good times are in the past if Justin get's his way. But until then we must march forward.
Ammo requirements are 10 pistol ,10 rifle and 4 to 6 shotgun rounds per stage. Trend in Albert has been to 2day 12 stage matches.
I shoot about 10 matches per year and have available about 10 more I could attend. I do zero practice rounds and only a few gun testing rounds. I figured out long ago practice would never get me to the winners podium. So I shoot the matches try to go clean and have fun shooting with my friends and let the time be what it is. You know the old saying if the winner shot a 25 second round and I shot a 50 second round I had twice as much fun.LOL
I reload rifle and pistol ammo and feel it is worth while. I also reload shotgun ammo only because my shotguns are chambered for 2 1/2" and its hard to buy that. You will be unlikely to reload cheaper than you can buy trap loads. Cost of ammo in my opinion is secondary to travel expenses at this point. The closest match I attend is 100 miles away many are 5 or 6 hours driving time.
Depending where you are in BC you may have some great opportunity to a lot of matches, Victoria ,Courtney, Mission, Kamloops. and others.
 
That is a lot of shooting Vicious and Grand! Retirement sounds fun. Time is my biggest enemy when it comes to shooting as I have 3 young lads in ice hockey and work is always busy. Luckily I am not gunning to be world champ - just to have some fun, take out the boys and improve my skills. Thanks all for giving me a decent idea of what to expect in terms of round count depending on how active I am.
 
JohnnyCanuck10: Both Vicious and Garand have laid it out pretty well. So, will simply add a few of my own thoughts..

Depending on the club, the average match runs anywhere from 4 to 6 stages. 80-120 rounds rifle/pistols (combined) per match. Approx 1 box of shot shells... maybe more, per match. Bank on having to make extra shots. Shotgun misses do happen. Or, it takes more than one shot to knock down a stubborn falling target.

Sometimes, rifle/pistol targets will require extra shots too, depending on the stage requirements. Also, shots can be missed, so allow extra ammo for make ups. So, budget your ammo depending on the number of matches you wish to attend, per year. And...always bring more ammo than you think you`re going to need!

Live fire practice time is pretty much a personal thing. My practice regimen mirrors Garand's. Though many shooters do quite well practicing once a month, and 100-200 rounds expended. Do whatever works for you, your time and your budget.

The majority of your practice time should be spent in dry fire practice drills*. This is where you develop the technique, confidence and speed required, to grow and develop as a cowboy shooter. Practice as much as you can. A couple of times a week is good. More is better. As little or as much time as you need. Only you can decide what works best for you. But, do practice.

Most of your practice time should revolve around transitions. From revolver to holster...in and out. Revolver to rifle. Rifle to shotgun. Or any combination in between. Also, practice reloads: Pistol. Rifle. Shotgun. Until smooth and locked into muscle memory. Revolver reloads aren`t seen much these days. But, do pop up, every now and then. Rifle and shotgun, should be practiced diligently. As both are very common.

Shotgun especially. The majority of time lost on a stage is generally due to clumsy or fumbled shotgun reloads. That lost time can sometimes mean the difference between a Champion buckle, and an also-ran. Plus, it`s frustrating as hell, when it happens!

Likewise, practice moving with firearms. Many times, a particular stage convention may require moving from one spot to another during the course of fire. In which case, it`s vital to know how to transition smoothly and especially safely, while carrying firearms.

There are some shooters who recommend starting fast and practicing as fast as possible. All the time. This may work for some. Personally, I believe that will only result in developing bad habits that will be hard to change. Instead, I`ve found it better to use the philosophy seen in many martial arts: Start slowly. Learn the technique thoroughly. Speed will follow with time and repitition. Naturally, once your technique is sound, you should always practice as fast as possible. Then work on improving, from there.

Here is likely the best piece of advice: "Smooth is fast. Fast is smooth." This mantra is shared by all top cowboy shooters. Practice this philosophy diligently, both in practice and while competing, and you will soon see success.

Study the top competitive shooters. The one thing all these champions have in common is that, they are both smooth and fast, at the same time. No wasted motion in anything they do. These folks are a perfect example of this philosophy in action. It works. Take what you learn from them, then modify them into techniques that work for you.

This windy dissertation ran on a lot longer than anticipated. Hopefully, some of it will be useful.

Al


* Always use dummy rounds. Snap caps, etc. Or, make up dummy rounds. Easy to do.
 
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Your windy dissertation is extremely useful Al. Greatly appreciate you taking the time to pass on your experience. Will use this dissertation as a guide moving forward. Thanks a bunch!
 
Each stage,10, 10, 4. Match's 4 to 6 in a day. Times how many match's per year. Practice, dry fire, or if you wish go for live fire if you can get the ammo.

Decade ago 25 match's a year was normal and 10,000 rounds and a couple case of shotgun shells.

Sadly you are late to the good times.

Remember who brought us to this, vote accordingly and don't spend your vote on a fringe that will not be elected "Just To Show Them!"
 
Hello Johnny
Vicious may right about the good times are in the past if Justin get's his way. But until then we must march forward.
Ammo requirements are 10 pistol ,10 rifle and 4 to 6 shotgun rounds per stage. Trend in Albert has been to 2day 12 stage matches.
I shoot about 10 matches per year and have available about 10 more I could attend. I do zero practice rounds and only a few gun testing rounds. I figured out long ago practice would never get me to the winners podium. So I shoot the matches try to go clean and have fun shooting with my friends and let the time be what it is. You know the old saying if the winner shot a 25 second round and I shot a 50 second round I had twice as much fun.LOL
I reload rifle and pistol ammo and feel it is worth while. I also reload shotgun ammo only because my shotguns are chambered for 2 1/2" and its hard to buy that. You will be unlikely to reload cheaper than you can buy trap loads. Cost of ammo in my opinion is secondary to travel expenses at this point. The closest match I attend is 100 miles away many are 5 or 6 hours driving time.
Depending where you are in BC you may have some great opportunity to a lot of matches, Victoria ,Courtney, Mission, Kamloops. and others.

Travel is a huge cost to most competitive shooting sports. My travel budget is more than my ammo budget.
 
Since Covid restrictions let up, there has been a terrible jump in prices, my wife and I are spending 10 days shooting in Saskatchewan later this summer and with prebooking motels for 10 days cost is up $250 from last year, then there is gas, increasing match fees, scarcity of reloading components. Then with the B$ paperwork required to bring your guns back into Canada after a match in the US makes a person wonder if it is work leaving the country for matches in the US. 6 to 7 years ago we used to cross the border with guns 7-8 times a year, this year once.
 
I get in about 20 club level matches a year, averaging 50 pistol, 50 rifle and 22+ shotgun per match; so around 1000 pistol, 1000 rifle and about 400 shotgun.
This number excludes any practice I manage to get in.
Then there is the occasional Wild Bunch and Buffalo Rifle Match.
I don't look at the gas I consume getting to the four sites I shoot at; I just don't want to know! LOL
 
I only Started in the in February but I try and go to 1 match a month, so that is 12/year at 100 45 long colt a match and 22 shotgun shells. Have you thought about reloading to lower the cost? With the cost at Close to 100.00 dollars for 50 rounds, it adds up quick and reloading can drop that considerable. Happy Trails
 
Oh, I reload. Have done for years: 9mm;.45 ACP, .357; .38spl; .45 Colt; as well as .30-06; .308 and of course .45-70
I ceased casting and sizing my own lead bullets after I found a couple of fellows with Magna-casters, who sold their wares at a reasonable price.
Retired, I have a lot of time on my hands, especially in winter and, with a good supply of .45 Colt brass, I take my time and load the following summer's ammo.
When Lebaron was going out of business, I was able to stock up on large rifle and pistol primers, so I'm good for a while for primers. Powder on the other hand is a problem, especially my favorite, Trail Boss.
I have a pretty basic reloading set-up, using a single stage press etc. because as I mentioned, I have the time to waste.
I don't reload shotgun, as I thought, (at that time), it was as cheap or cheaper to buy factory fodder by the case.
 
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My wife and I made an agreement when we started competing together. I build ammo & clean guns and she does toilets. I'm happy with the current arrangement.
 
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