How much are the prices of antiques inflated by Antique Status in Canada?

[Brutus]

Some of your research is found wanting friend.

You cannot downplay a quality product of higher value over another.
For example you seem to categorize all spur trigger revolvers as suicide specials.
This is equal to saying a Lada has same value as a modern Mini Cooper due to its very similar size.
That's just wrong friend.

The Colt 1873 SAA is another great example of a high value item that is equally venerated both sides of our North American border.
Is because both Western/South Western USA and Western Canada we shared a prairie history of cattle-horse
industry.
Regardless of calibre little nuances due to differing bureaucracy yet both of our nations put high value on our past history.
That's a good thing for society.
Henceforth a Colt SAA with all four clicks/good condition, goes for about the same asking price in Canada and America.

Antique handguns are like investment in real estate. Because you cannot make more land. As time marches on the good ones will only climb in value as long as there is people with disposable income.

 

[Intrepid]

My only involvement with Antiques is the muzzle-loading, flintlock style of pistols ( with the odd percussion one thrown in for balance ). I find the prices vary wildly, with some being way over priced for what they are. I won't buy one that is a non-shooter, because I like to bring them back to life, as it were. Although some that I have bought required a bit of repair work to get them going again...
I couldn't care less about carrying them around in the bush - simple target shooting, and period reenactments, is my joy.

 

[whiskeywillow]

Some of your research is found wanting friend.

You cannot downplay a quality product of higher value over another.
For example you seem to categorize all spur trigger revolvers as suicide specials.
This is equal to saying a Lada has same value as a modern Mini Cooper due to its very similar size.
That's just wrong friend.

The Colt 1873 SAA is another great example of a high value item that is equally venerated both sides of our North American border.
Is because both Western/South Western USA and Western Canada we shared a prairie history of cattle-horse
industry.
Regardless of calibre little nuances due to differing bureaucracy yet both of our nations put high value on our past history.
That's a good thing for society.
Henceforth a Colt SAA with all four clicks/good condition, goes for about the same asking price in Canada and America.

Antique handguns are like investment in real estate. Because you cannot make more land. As time marches on the good ones will only climb in value as long as there is people with disposable income.

I am of this same opinion.. western culture, historical significance and a society's Geographical location tied to that culture & history will always be a driver in the 1873 Colt single action market. Without a shadow of a doubt. Antique or not. Things may differ in Montreal, but then again, there lies different history & a culture of their own compared to here. And I'm not saying that's bad, it just is what it is.

If our system for outdoors-carry was more realistic here in Canada, and it had a written in arrangement for carrying a modern sidearm while in the backcountry or across pastures and outdoors as it should, I would bet MANY of the current users of the old ones would turn only so far as using a modern version of what they use and are familiar with in their old guns anyway ... and very likely not reach for plastic Glocks or otherwise like people seem to assume would occur. Their grandfrathers and great grandfathers old guns could then be retired to heirloom safety's of the gun safe and not need to still serve the way they're still necessitated today. That's about all that would change.

The cultural significance, the history's and the value on those old guns will hold or increase undoubtedly, because just like Brutus said, what's been lived and rooted into that history cannot be undone or replaced, and can't be made over again.. it's as important to Westerners, Canadians and Americans alike just the same as Europe & Asia's got Gehngas-Khan's history, the ancient Romans, Spartan armies, and the Samurai swords.. we got Cowboys, we got the North American Indians, we've got the chuckwagon, the Winchester & the Colt. May as well embrace it. It's our history & it will be the reality of what was, what is, and be part of this continents timeline forever. Pat Garret's Colt just sold for $6million... so pricewise, the sky is literally the limit. Government can title these things whatever they want. That part doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of it all.

 

[NorthWoods22]

Some of your research is found wanting friend.

You cannot downplay a quality product of higher value over another.
For example you seem to categorize all spur trigger revolvers as suicide specials.
This is equal to saying a Lada has same value as a modern Mini Cooper due to its very similar size.
That's just wrong friend.

The Colt 1873 SAA is another great example of a high value item that is equally venerated both sides of our North American border.
Is because both Western/South Western USA and Western Canada we shared a prairie history of cattle-horse
industry.
Regardless of calibre little nuances due to differing bureaucracy yet both of our nations put high value on our past history.
That's a good thing for society.
Henceforth a Colt SAA with all four clicks/good condition, goes for about the same asking price in Canada and America.

Antique handguns are like investment in real estate. Because you cannot make more land. As time marches on the good ones will only climb in value as long as there is people with disposable income.

Thanks for the reply.

I hope you re-read my post. I stated that the original Colt Single Action Army's seem to be one of the guns that is LEAST inflated in terms of antique-status value versus legitimate collector's value.
We are in agreement that an original .45 Colt Single Action Army can easily bring more money (on both sides of the border) than one in .41 Colt, which may have the antique status exemption in Canada.
For the Colt Single Action Army at least, it seems the historical collector's value is much greater than any antique status exemption value the ones in .41 Colt might have.

Other guns with less historical value, such as the Swedish Nagants, French 1892 revolvers, have much more artificial value in Canada simply due to the antique status exemption; as we can see the restricted counterparts being worth far less money (both in Canada and the US).

 

[Revv]

I wouldn't call antique status a "loophole".

Honestly... shouldn't new firearms be added to the antique list as time goes on. What is the definition of antique afterall.. 100 years old, 150 years old? Enquiring minds want to know haha! I know, I know.. this is the Canadian government.. screwing with definitions to suit a narrative seems to be their mission statement. Gonna have to dig out an antique dictionary to get the terms right.

 

[Brutus]

Thanks for the reply.

I hope you re-read my post. I stated that the original Colt Single Action Army's seem to be one of the guns that is LEAST inflated in terms of antique-status value versus legitimate collector's value.
We are in agreement that an original .45 Colt Single Action Army can easily bring more money (on both sides of the border) than one in .41 Colt, which may have the antique status exemption in Canada.
For the Colt Single Action Army at least, it seems the historical collector's value is much greater than any antique status exemption value the ones in .41 Colt might have.

Other guns with less historical value, such as the Swedish Nagants, French 1892 revolvers, have much more artificial value in Canada simply due to the antique status exemption; as we can see the restricted counterparts being worth far less money (both in Canada and the US).

Take care friend.

 

[uglydukwling]

It's not just in Canada. I remember an ad in Shotgun News some time ago. An American dealer had imported a batch of Nagant 1895 revolvers. The prices would be completely out of date even if I could remember them, but what I do remember is that he had a few with pre-1898 serial numbers, and he was asking about 3 times as much for them as for the "modern" ones.

 

[mooncoon]

It's not just in Canada. I remember an ad in Shotgun News some time ago. An American dealer had imported a batch of Nagant 1895 revolvers. The prices would be completely out of date even if I could remember them, but what I do remember is that he had a few with pre-1898 serial numbers, and he was asking about 3 times as much for them as for the "modern" ones.

In the US, it could be that while a convicted felon cannot possess a firearm, they can own and possess antiques. Don't forget; in the US, a 50 year old person who had a DUI at the age of 20 and remained clean from then on, is still a convicted felon and can never ever possess a modern firearm

cheers mooncoon

 

[Moe]

In the US, it could be that while a convicted felon cannot possess a firearm, they can own and possess antiques. Don't forget; in the US, a 50 year old person who had a DUI at the age of 20 and remained clean from then on, is still a convicted felon and can never ever possess a modern firearm

cheers mooncoon

Depends on the crime. I have a friend in the US with a DUI in his 20's. A few years later he had a large collection including NFA registered SBR and suppressor. He also has his CCW licence. No he wasn't pardoned.

Cheers
Moe