How Much Hunter Orange is okay

You guys: 2025: I play "Deer Hunter" on my computer outside in the cold, and it really is almost the same as when I used to hunt. It's sure a lot safer than the old days, and we have supermarkets for meat anyway. The Government was just looking out for human life, over the free-will of a bunch of "yahoos" to possibly make a mistake. We still get to have fun, and everyone is safer now. Thanks Glorious Leaders! I love you too! (Ever backing down; Ever compromising; nice! You guys most certainly can't be trusted with freedom. Luckily it's almost gone; whew; dodged a bullet on that one! Pun intended.)
 
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riden said:
This is a funny thread. Always is.

What I always find fascinating about this topic (everytime it comes up) is how many Ontarioites fully agree with the law and think it is dangerous to hunt without orange. To that the point that........

#2 You get so pissy about it. I think it is great fun watching you guys get pissy about this.

Where's my popcorn smilie?
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When I hunt with my native buddies most only wear an orange hat (if that) and yet we survive. Must be the red complexion that keeps us safe :) COs don't even bother asking.

When i hunt with my non-native buddies i comply with the requirement because it is the requirement and there are usually more hunters in the bush.
 
riden said:
This is a funny thread. Always is.

You're missing the point, both of them.

#1 It woudl be pointless if he did go to the American boards, they would agree with him that this is an example of gov't meddling. He is quite right on his point.

What I always find fascinating about this topic (everytime it comes up) is how many Ontarioites fully agree with the law and think it is dangerous to hunt without orange. To that the point that........

#2 You get so pissy about it. I think it is great fun watching you guys get pissy about this.

Where's my popcorn smilie?
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There may still be an opportunity with Tex behind his woodshed. Jump in before he gets snapped up. He's a keeper by all accounts. ;)


On a serious note for a second. There are many instances where I at least, as a current Ontarian strongly resent government meddling and intervention. I don't think wearing some orange during the couple of weeks of gun season for deer is one of those, for me at least and for any of the guys I have hunted with here. Some of the hunting techniques here (dogging, pushing, blocking etc) in thick bush with lots of hunters, really do make orange a no brainer IMO. Its not just guys in tree stands, or long shots in open corn fields and the like. I guess you can take the view that it should be a free choice, but I wouldn't want some bozo shooting at me thinking I'm a deer and at the same time I appreciate being able to see other hunters as well when there's a deer charging through the bush towards you.

Of course another option is you could ban using dogs, shots at moving deer etc. Is that a better option? Or should we just accept a few guys getting shot each year?
 
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The ORB said:
Or should we just accept a few guys getting shot each year?
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Freedom is messy; yep! Just so long as it's legal for at least half of those guys getting shot to be the recipient of return fire; I've got no problem with that. Besides, after the first season, the number of "yahoos" that would risk it would drop like a stone. :)

P.S. "Whoop a*s behind the wood shed" - I made that one up, but it's nice to find me more attractive than a threat. How you came up with that phrase equaling ### ### vs. a fist fight I'll never know, but "don't ask, don't tell" eh? I'm not ### per-say, at least not more than most, but it' nice to know that I'm so attractive that neither women, nor ### men can keep from ogling my masculine beauty. :)
 
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Who is getting shot now?

Pushing bush and running shots are common all across the country including provinces with that allow full camo. Nobody is getting shot now???

Accidents are very rare, and plastered all over the CBC when they happen.

Does anyone have real stats to show hunter orange provinces/states are safer than full camo provinces/states? I am guessing no.
 
riden said:
Who is getting shot now?

Pushing bush and running shots are common all across the country including provinces with that allow full camo. Nobody is getting shot now???

Accidents are very rare, and plastered all over the CBC when they happen.

Does anyone have real stats to show hunter orange provinces/states are safer than full camo provinces/states? I am guessing no.
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Many people get shot each year in North American hunting accidents. Not too many in Canada though luckily, but there are still the odd few.

The thing with wearing orange for deer season is why not? It doesn't hurt for deer hunting. The deer cant see it, but hunters can and that can only help from a safety point of view. I would say that the camo blaze orange should be acceptable though, as I dont see any logical reason why not.

You can go for Tex's libertarian free for all if you want. Where any laws are an afront to his freedom and where hunters shoot back at each other to eventually purge the dangerous ones from the gene pool. :eek: I'll stick to doing the hunter safety course and wearing some orange for those two weeks of the year.
 
ORB, quit being a buzz-kill! Besides, it shouldn't be the Government telling you to do it; if anything, it should be social pressure, but not LAW!
 
You guys are missing the point about the Blaze Orange. It really isn't about safety, it is so the MNR can spot you easier. That way they don't have to get out of their nice warm truck to go looking for you.

It makes me wonder how thousands of road construction workers in Ontario are safe wearing a mesh vest with cars and truck screaming by a few feet away, yet that same mesh vest is not safe for hunting.
 
I would wear orange even if I wasn't required to. If I lived in a province that didn't require it, I would probably insist I didn't need it as I wouldn't understand it completely as I wouldn't have any personal experience with it. It isn't about infringing on rights, it's about preventing unnecessary accidents. I have been as close as 50 yards in an orange jacket and hat and the deer couldn't see me, even though they were looking around and they could smell me. This was at the edge of a big open area. So there is no disadvantage to wearing it from a hunting perspective. There are sooooo many weekend warriors here in southern ON it is ridiculous. They aren't out in the woods much and don't know much about hunting at all, but for that 1 or 2 week period a year there are some that are very desperate to fill their tags. I have seen a guy shoot at something that he could not identify. I mean he didn't even know if it was an animal, let alone a deer!!!
 
riden said:
Who is getting shot now?

Pushing bush and running shots are common all across the country including provinces with that allow full camo. Nobody is getting shot now???

Accidents are very rare, and plastered all over the CBC when they happen.

Does anyone have real stats to show hunter orange provinces/states are safer than full camo provinces/states? I am guessing no.
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Of course not. Which is why AB got rid of the hunter orange requirements.


Hunter EDUCATION has proved much more effective.
 
When I hunt on private land I take all my orange off once I get into my stand. But When moving to and from I always put it back on, or if a gang starts a drive on the next property. My question is, if someone mistakes another hunter for a deer and shoots him "exactly what part of the deer were they aiming at?"
 
mcpiper said:
My question is, if someone mistakes another hunter for a deer and shoots him "exactly what part of the deer were they aiming at?"
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Add to that these types assuming that because the law says you need to wear orange, whatever ISN'T wearing orange, can be assumed to be an animal.

We don't have any laws on blaze orange out this way, though it is suggested in the hunting guide. I wear an orange vest by choice when big game hunting with the hope that it will decrease the chances of someone scoping me or shooting me. But I think that making it a law to wear orange might cause other problems. Do hikers have to wear orange in Ontario? (Not a rhetorical question, I don't know the answer to this).
 
I've always felt the hunter oragne laws were passed so the game wardens can spot hunters easy, and then check their licences, etc. The reason I say this is because only hunters are required to wear orange. Anyone else in the bush during hunting season don't have to wear orange, and this includes game wardens, hikers, loggers, fishermen, campers, etc. Just hunters:confused:
 
mcpiper said:
When I hunt on private land I take all my orange off once I get into my stand. But When moving to and from I always put it back on, or if a gang starts a drive on the next property. My question is, if someone mistakes another hunter for a deer and shoots him "exactly what part of the deer were they aiming at?"
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Maybe the hunter doesn't mistake you for a deer, maybe he sees a deer and shoots not knowing your 30 yrds on the other side of that deer.

I love my blaze orange, when you got 15 guys shooting at running deer it's nice to be seen. :sniper:
 
dangertree said:
Do hikers have to wear orange in Ontario? (Not a rhetorical question, I don't know the answer to this).
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No they don't have to and there was a lady hiker "accidentally" killed by a hunter in Simcoe Forest in Southern Ontario just a couple of years ago.
 
I don't understand the problem with blaze orange:confused:
Deer are color blind!
I remember watching a show were they painted a decoy blaze orange to see what the other deer would do
Well a buck came in and ripped the thing apart ( it was a buck decoy)
he didn't seem to care what color it was

I were my oranges in to my spot then if I'm in high grass i hang my hat up on a branch for all the deer to see (and fellow hunters)

I guess it comes down to a fashion statement you have to look cool in the bush you know;)

I guess oranges are moot when you crawl into your ground blind:D
 
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