How much is a reasonable amount??

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I'm new to the site and this is my first post.Can you please settle a argument between myself and my brother. Exactly how much ammo are you allowed to store in a home for private use?? I've read the regulations but they are fuzzy. It says you are allowed to store a reasonable amout. My reasonable amount and his are very much differant. My amount would be a few hundred rounds. He says 10's of thousands is OK. Maybe for an army, I don't know. Any imput would be great. Thanks in advance.

Sailorman3
 
A reasonable amount for someone who shoots trap and skeet competatively is different than reasonable for the average hunter. Having said that, I have no idea what number of cartridges you can have is. Also consider that 5 bricks of .22 LR is probably reasonable, but is the same amount of .30-06 reasonable? I guess it is context driven.
 
If the amount of ammo I'm storing begins to crack the concrete floor, I might begin to reform my opinion of reasonable.

Legally, you can store up to 225kg of powder within safety cartridges.

That works out to about 1.3 million 38 special rounds, or 138 thousand .223 Remington cases. I imagine that's a reasonable amount depending on your needs. Of course, who am I to tell you what you need?
 
My "reasonable amount" also depends on economics. I shoot milsurp rifles, therefore I buy milsurp ammo in bulk to ensure a good supply.

Now, I suppose having a lifetime supply of 7.62x54 on hand might be considered unreasonable by some, but I don't think so.;)
 
I cannot find the legislation but I do believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you are allowed at total of 5000 rounds to be stored for you're personal use. Although I've never heard of someone being charged for having an "excessive ammount or stockpile" of ammunition.

Ace
 
space_ace said:
I cannot find the legislation but I do believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you are allowed at total of 5000 rounds to be stored for you're personal use. Although I've never heard of someone being charged for having an "excessive ammount or stockpile" of ammunition.

Ace
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I'm not aware of that regulation...you may be mixing this up with a Customs Regulation that allows you to bring 5,000 rounds of ammo into Canada for personal use with no Customs fees...(keep in mind that this satisfies the Canadian Laws only...the US see's it much differently)

Cheers
 
I keep several thousand rounds of reloads/factory ammo for each caliber of Glock I shoot (3), plus a few thousand .223 and .308. I like having a good supply of ammo ready to go, when I get below one ammo box I load up some more. Can never have enough ammo as far as I am concerned.
 
a reasonable amount for a person with one gun could be much different than a person with many guns. if a number value is attached to the amount of bullets you can have and you have a pile of guns of different calibres(huge pile granted), one could end up with only one round or less for each gun.
 
The answer depends on the usage.

For an IPSC shooter, more than 10000rds would not be unreasonable, also a PPC shooter.

For a plinker, maybe 1000rds.

It's all subjective.

RePete.
 
Those are the dumbest rules....

for me (casual plinker/hunter) reasonable is something like:

a few hundred for the pistols at any given time, over a 1000 for the SKS, hey it comes in 1120 round crates, few hundred shotgun shells, 5000 or so for the .22LR. Again due to the fact that buying bulk saves $$ and we all like that.
 
The term 'reasonable amount' used to disturb me a fair amount. Although I may be optimistic, the use of this term may be in place to avoid putting a limit of a quantity which may or may not realistic.

If the "powers that be" were to put a limit of quantity 'X rounds' they may effectively criminalize a population of Canadian shooters.

Granted, it could be the case that the term 'reasonable amount' could be unethically used to bring charges against someone who has a stash of ammo. The alternative though is that some arbitrary figure will be forced down our throats. As such, I'm content with the reasonable amount designation, and prove my case if the need arises.

Brad.
 
bmcrae said:
The term 'reasonable amount' used to disturb me a fair amount. Although I may be optimistic, the use of this term may be in place to avoid putting a limit of a quantity which may or may not realistic.

If the "powers that be" were to put a limit of quantity 'X rounds' they may effectively criminalize a population of Canadian shooters.

Granted, it could be the case that the term 'reasonable amount' could be unethically used to bring charges against someone who has a stash of ammo. The alternative though is that some arbitrary figure will be forced down our throats. As such, I'm content with the reasonable amount designation, and prove my case if the need arises.

Brad.
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In truth, this section of the explosive regs will have to be rewritten. It is far to arbitrary. The only way we'll win out on this one is to force them to do a proper risk analysis and quantify any reduction in the net explosive content rules as they currently exist.
 
"...the regulations but they are fuzzy..." Yep and so is most legislation. The term 'reasonable amount' like nearly everything else in the Firearms Act(s) has never been defined.
The only amount of ammo that is specified is the amount you can bring across the border for your own use. That's 5,000 rounds. Canadian law only. The U.S. won't let you buy any ammo. All other import laws and rules aside.
 
1899 said:
A reasonable amount for someone who shoots trap and skeet competatively is different than reasonable for the average hunter. Having said that, I have no idea what number of cartridges you can have is. Also consider that 5 bricks of .22 LR is probably reasonable, but is the same amount of .30-06 reasonable? I guess it is context driven.
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ONLY 5 bricks of .22 LR? :eek: Any serious competitor purchases good .22 LR by the case load. Consider that they test fire different lots of each brand and several brands from different manufacturers to find the most accurate ammunition for their gun, I can understand why they want to buy several cases at a time. A case, 10 bricks (5000 rounds), doesn't last long. 70 rounds per practice session, 3 sessions a week, plus rounds shot in competition would burn through 2 cases (20 bricks) in a year. 70 x 3 x 50 = 10500 = 2 cases + a brick. Now consider this is just for a single gun. Competitive shooters tend to shoot different events that require different guns. Different guns may require different ammo to get the best accuracy. Some of the events include centerfire ammo. There's also the different diciplines. Rifle, pistol, and shotgun. 100,000+ rounds sounds reasonable to me! :D
 
Quigley said:
I'm not aware of that regulation...you may be mixing this up with a Customs Regulation that allows you to bring 5,000 rounds of ammo into Canada for personal use with no Customs fees...(keep in mind that this satisfies the Canadian Laws only...the US see's it much differently)

Cheers
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Actually, the Customs D memorandum just states that you can bring in 5000 safety cartridges(rounds) -- per person, total for each trip. If you try to bring more than that you will need a permit.

There will always be customs fees if the dollar value is greater than your exemption amount. Gotta pay for all of that bloated beaurocracy. Hopefully, the government will accept the senates recomendation and raise the exemption to $2000.00.
 
RePete said:
The answer depends on the usage.

For an IPSC shooter, more than 10000rds would not be unreasonable, also a PPC shooter.

For a plinker, maybe 1000rds.

It's all subjective.

RePete.
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RePete,
Sounds like an anti's line of reasoning.;) You've tied amount to usage. By your subjective, competition biased method, very few GunNutz would be in compliace with a "reasonable" amount of ammo.
 
BCP said:
ONLY 5 bricks of .22 LR? :eek: Any serious competitor purchases good .22 LR by the case load. Consider that they test fire different lots of each brand and several brands from different manufacturers to find the most accurate ammunition for their gun, I can understand why they want to buy several cases at a time. A case, 10 bricks (5000 rounds), doesn't last long. 70 rounds per practice session, 3 sessions a week, plus rounds shot in competition would burn through 2 cases (20 bricks) in a year. 70 x 3 x 50 = 10500 = 2 cases + a brick. Now consider this is just for a single gun. Competitive shooters tend to shoot different events that require different guns. Different guns may require different ammo to get the best accuracy. Some of the events include centerfire ammo. There's also the different diciplines. Rifle, pistol, and shotgun. 100,000+ rounds sounds reasonable to me! :D
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lol holy crap, how many times do u have to mortgage your house?!
 
Reasonable for one person isnt reasonable for another person.

I prefer to have ammunition on hand for each firearm that I own, that way when I go to the range I dont need to make a extra trip to the store.

Now, depending on the firearm 100 rounds may be reasonable but for others that I have I prefer to have 1 - 5 thousand rounds on hand. Why? Well, I can shoot that many rounds easily in a season, and its usually more cost effective to purchase ammunition in bulk instead of one box at a time.

One example is that I have 15000 .22 shells on hand right now, yes thats lots but I can shoot 2000 in a weekend when gopher shooting so 15000 is not unreasonable to me at all.

Many IPSC shooters I know fire perhaps 500 rounds a month at matches but they will fire perhaps 1000 or more rounds a month practicing. Thats a quick 18000 rounds of ammuniton for one years shooting and considering how hard it is to get ammo from some stores it only makes sense to buy larger quantities so that you dont risk running out.


So to me, reasonable would be under 100,000 rounds of ammunition. Properly stored of course.



Cheers
 
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