How much to build the beast ?

is it just me or I built a cheap tack driver?
Gaillard barrel $400
bell and carlson stock 500
barnard action 1100
xmark pro trigger $50
burris scope $350
rail and rings $100
smith job cheaper than the scope(I wont mention who did it)

The look on the guys face with $4000 rig and up after the match... PRICELESS
 
Where do you get a Stevens action for $200? Or is that the after price, once you have flogged the factory barrel and stock?

You are paying too much for rings, my last set of Sig Z's were $50 and the Weaver bases were about $5 each.:D

You would probably want a new trigger for F class, as well.

Mark

trigger...almost forgot...3 screw savage trigger, stoned and polished - 20$
 
Just curious, what do you think it would cost to build a top notch long range shooter (f-class type rig).

Considering this to be your personal gonna keep it and try and win everything type rifle. The best of everything you know.

$1500 +
$2500 +
$3500 +
$4500 + ,,,,, ? How much
Stock, Action, Barrell, Trigger, Scope, Mounts everything.
I'd like to see what people think here.

M.
Forget about building expensive F-class, get a Savage F-Class it will out shoot anything, price around $1500, these rifles will out shoot Rifle that are 3 time the Cost.
 
Forget about building expensive F-class, get a Savage F-Class it will out shoot anything, price around $1500, these rifles will out shoot Rifle that are 3 time the Cost.


I have to say that for the most part I agree with you. They may not out-shoot, but they certainly shoot as well as most customized guns. I've seen a couple that were incredible. Why people bother with all the jape on a Stevens 200 when thay can have one of these out of the box is baffling.
 
Why people bother with all the jape on a Stevens 200 when thay can have one of these out of the box is baffling.


Choice of bbl maker,caliber, chamber, trigger, bbl length, stock etc, enjoyment of "building" your own rifle, cost. Instead of "settling" on the savage offerings for a little less money you can choose exactly what you want and have some fun putting it together.
 
I have to say that for the most part I agree with you. They may not out-shoot, but they certainly shoot as well as most customized guns. I've seen a couple that were incredible. Why people bother with all the jape on a Stevens 200 when thay can have one of these out of the box is baffling.

Ian, I'm pretty sure that you know this already. People like to do what they like to do. Buying a $350 rile and swapping in $1000 + worth of parts, as time and budget allows, is quite satifying to some and I'm sure a redundant exercise to others. Also you can keep shooting the stevens as the build progresses. Its not stuck at the gunsmiths for 6 months.

I never get tired of seeing that Barnosky stock btw. Do you know if he would make one for the savage action?
 
Stevens 223: 380$
Shilen Select Match BBL:450$
SSS laminate stock: 400$
Bushnell 4200 8 x 32: 500$ (used like new)
Burris Sig Z rings: 60$
Timney trigger: 150$
Gunsmith: 0$

Prices include taxes and shipping 1769$ spent over a 12 month period.
 
I have to say that for the most part I agree with you. They may not out-shoot, but they certainly shoot as well as most customized guns. I've seen a couple that were incredible. Why people bother with all the jape on a Stevens 200 when thay can have one of these out of the box is baffling.

Most of the Savage F-Class does out shoot Most Other manufacture even some custom, floating bolt head is one of those great design, even remington New rifles have Floating bolt head, there is several company already coppying the Savage floating bolt head, and have great success.
 
F open gun
Sako 995 Action
MacLennan barrel 7mm WSM
Unknown prone stock the fits me like a glove
Sako opticloc rings
enough brass to out last the barrel
300$ best 300 ive ever spend

F/tr
stevens 200 400$ less 70$ for the barrel
h-s stock 400$ used
shilen select barrel and a farrel 20moa base came to 588$ shipped and with taxes
tps rings 100$ give or take
sss trigger 130$ give or take
Mark 4 6.5-20 1600$
barrel wrench was 65$ shipped
harris 9"-13" swivel 130$ plus taxes and shipping

total 3343$, should of just stuck with my sako:redface:
 
Sako 995 Action is by far One of the Nicest action around.

I love it, it feels like it runs on ball bearings but i cant find a stock for it and dont have the money to look into getting one made for it right now, soon as im done school next spring its first on the list;)
 
I have to say that for the most part I agree with you. They may not out-shoot, but they certainly shoot as well as most customized guns. I've seen a couple that were incredible. Why people bother with all the jape on a Stevens 200 when thay can have one of these out of the box is baffling.
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The modification and assembly of firearms with off the shelf components allows many to feel like they are some sort of firearm design wunderkind. Many people waste precious time chasing a Holy Grail.
 
All the swapping of parts on a savage is nothing more than a grown mans Lego. Something to tinker with yourself, as a way into the basics of gunsmithing. Head spacing a barrel, tinkering with bedding and triggers, just like building a Mechano set. Thats why I "play" with mine. I think I would get some funny looks buying lego with the (few) greys in my beard..
 
Most of the Savage F-Class does out shoot Most Other manufacture even some custom, floating bolt head is one of those great design, even remington New rifles have Floating bolt head, there is several company already coppying the Savage floating bolt head, and have great success.

We'll agree to disagree with the real-time performance of these factory rifles, as I said, I have competed against many of them and shot beside many of them, and know several that own them. Most of these guns are really very good, and on par with a typical customized equivalent. Like all factory guns, a few of them have been dogs too. If you look at the photos from the USFCC, there is a BC Shooter using a stock off a Savage F-Class gun on a Remington 40X . He got fed up with the action and mediocre performance and sold it off, but kept the excellent stock and had it painted in a cool Canada theme. (Do you actually shoot F-Class by the way? ) I will say this though, Savage has the best customer service of any rifle manufacturer. I think their F-Class and BR rifles are a terrific, safe, relatively inexpensive and easy choice for someone wanting to get into long range precision shooting.

Savage was hardly the first to use a floating bolt head, but they have stuck with it longer. Sportco was using it before Savage and the Lee Enfield system was arguably similar in function before that.

Personally, I consider floating bolt heads a cheap way around less than perfect machining tolerances, but they do a great job in that regard. I prefer a very small firing pin hole and a system of Borden bumps over a floating bolt head. If integral lugs and bolt lugs are perfectly true, you keep the bolt face absolutely perpendicular to the bore with good positive lug contact.

With today's excellent CNC technology, I am surprised that the achievement of better factory tolerances isn't there yet, although I hear Savage has started.

Instead of thrashing subjective opinions on receiver design to death in pursuit of nothing tangible, I revert back to my original assertion that rather than spending all the money and waiting all the time to collect components on a crudely made repeater action, one can purchase an off-the-shelf purpose built precision rifle and begin teaching themselves to be as accurate as their rifle.

I personally prefer to optimize my time where it counts the most: Training to become a better long distance precision shooter.
 
I agree with Ian, they're a fantastic way to get into the sport and put in a decent showing. Thats why when jr. wanted a rifle this year I got him to buy the factor savage in 6 BR. Even with me piloting it though it still won't shoot like my custom piece, it's hovering either side of 1/2 moa. usually just over.
M.
 
Today CNC technology are all ready there, I am sure it not ceiling out as of yet, but there are other improve that shooter can take advantage of.
 
All the swapping of parts on a savage is nothing more than a grown mans Lego. Something to tinker with yourself, as a way into the basics of gunsmithing. Head spacing a barrel, tinkering with bedding and triggers, just like building a Mechano set. Thats why I "play" with mine. I think I would get some funny looks buying lego with the (few) greys in my beard..
You're right . I find it very enjoying and satisfying to change some of the parts on the Savage by yourself that otherwise would need smithing.
 
Just built my LR F-Class rig.

XR-100 Action and Stock - $700
PTG Bolt/Firing Pin assembly - $300
Jewell Trigger - $200
Krieger Barrel - $490
Farrel Base - $100
Smith Work - $510 (Includes truing the action as well as stock work and barrel chamber/install)
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Total - $2300 (Taxes Inc)
 
I love it, it feels like it runs on ball bearings but i cant find a stock for it and dont have the money to look into getting one made for it right now, soon as im done school next spring its first on the list;)

I am sure mcmillan, manner or Roberson do make stock for it, otherwise modify one of rem700LA to fit it, My buddy got one also very nice, the other nice one are Sako75.
 
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