How much to spend on optics?

Do spend more or less on your Optics than your Rifle cost?


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Kidding aside, I don't see how any "rule of thumb" can be useful, especially in a general sense. Everyone's idea of a "good" scope or a "good" rifle is different. From my perspective, the only way I will spend more than maybe 1200-1500 on a rifle is if it is for serious hunting purposes, and for a rifle like that I will only put on what I consider a "good" scope, i.e. a Leupold. That's my comfort level in optics...I know that S&B or Nightforce offer superior optics, but my vision doesn't allow me to utilize them properly and my wallet doesn't allow me to justify them. I would also put a "good" scope on a gun that I use a great deal, like some of my favourite .22's. I have plenty of rimfires that wear scopes costing 2 or 3 times the cost of the rifle, but we're still not talking about tons of money.

One thing to consider: I look at things like binoculars differently. They are observation instruments, used for long periods of time and to distinguish minute detail. For stuff like that, I won't scrimp. I have a Zeiss and a Swarovski, and feel the money is well spent. But riflescopes are for aiming, not observing. As long as optical quality is decent, I am more concerned with waterproofness, durability, zero-holding, general ruggedness and warranty service.
 
You know I think the best way to answer your question is by statistics. Since I cannot approach it from a "this is definitely what I would do" - having absolutely no bearing on anything specific.

So how much have I spent on a rifle vs optics up to now? About $500 on optics, and $800 on rifle. So I guess this is my answer.
 
Guys I realy am welcoming the feed back. This is helping a lot. I plan to use this 22mag quite a bit for 100m recreational target shooting with my wife. She And I like the good glass I have already on other rifles and I just want to put someting on to replace the POS 3x9x40 simmons that came with it. I like my 2.5-16-50 and 4-16-56 that I have but realy didn't think it was a good practice puting a $800+ scope on a $330 rifle. You guys are helping me make the wise choice and I think I am going to make the plunge and pick up another 2.5-16-50 Bushnell 6500 for this rifle. Won't make a moove on this until tommorrow afternoon so keep the opinions flowing.

Thanks again guys
Moe
 
You can buy very good optics for $500-$900. More than that and you may be getting into the law of diminishing returns. You could put a $600 VX3 on a $600 Remington or on a $2000 Pre64 M70. Would it be a less excellent scope?
 
As much as it takes or as much as I can afford, whichever is less. The cost of the rifle has absolutely no connection to or effect on the quality of the scope.
 
as someone else said, it depends on purpose. on a .22 I often spend about $40 and get a cheap rimfire scope... as long as it holds zero I'm happy. But I also have a $1700 Nightforce NXS on my long range rig...
 
I have some good rifles but I have never ever ever felt the need for a high-priced high-end scope. 3200's and VXll"s are my range of choices. This I can say: Service is a biggy to me and both Bushnell and Leupold have treated me right on a couple of occasions.

(Now some wise guy is going to say "See! You bought cheap scopes and they wound up in somebodies' service depot!!" All I can say is "not every time and not for long".)
 
A work buddy of mine told me the other day that he thought the 3200's were junk but I have had no trouble with them. I once fell down a hill sending my rifle through the air. Rifle landed on the scope and chipped the finnish at the eye piece. Rechecked zero and was off 1" 100m. Re-zeroed and never had trouble for years.

Moe
 
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A work buddy of mine told me the other day that he thought the 3200's were junk but I have had no trouble with them. I once fell down a hill sending my rifle througn the air. Rifle landed on the scope and chipped the finnish at the eye piece. Rechecked zero and was off 1" 100m. Re-zeroed and never had trouble for years. Moe

With a 3200 a fall like that just seats the erectors properly.;)
 
You poll is missing another option: "I spend lots on optics, but not always more than the rifle."
 
I would say 600+ yards you need 6-18 + in good glass this can range from 700 - 1700 the better the scope the clearer the target
 
I have my 5R milspec in 308 and I just picked up a bushnell elite 4200 6-24x40. It seemed suitable for my application. I was only looking at shooting up to 300 yards. For the price I thought it was a great optic. I have heard nothing but good things about them. Good begginer scope per say.
 
i'm pretty comfortable with a vx2 or 3, minox or 4200 elete on a custom or $6oo factory rifle. i would stick with that level of glass on a $200 stevens or my cooper. i would like $2000 glass but when scoping 15 to 20 rifles it just too expensive for me.
 
I don't spend over $400 on optics regardless of range or rifle cost... With today's manufacturing tolerances and the highly competetive markwt $$3-400 buys you a really nice scope... I have never had one fail, and I have been please with build quality, clarity and consistency... Mueller, Hawke, Leupold, Redfield, Burris and other build very nice scopes in the $200-$400 range.
 
So I went down to P&D and got a scope. Had this in mind. I wanted to have an variable zoom out to 16x, 30mm tube, and a 50mm objective. I had elite 6500 in mind but was open minded. They had the 6500 I was looking for but only 40mm. They showed me similar glass from other makes. One of the emplyees who was helping me said he uses a couple Vortex scopes and is very pleased. So now I have a Vortex Viper Dead-Hold BDC 4x16x50. It has a 30mm tube, detachable sunshade, side paralax. Model VHS-4307. Think it will do the job. Looks good on the rifle and can't wait to get it to the range. I'm new to Vortex so I hope I did good.

Moe
 
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I used to spend all I could afford on the rifle then almost as an afterthought mount a cheap scope on it.

Until one day when I was convinced by a gun store clerk to put quality optics on my gun (they do give good advice sometimes). Since then I have become a believer in decent optics. (Decent being subjective to each shooter and thier economic situation)

With a budget rifle I can upgrade the trigger, bed the action, customize the stock, replace the barrel, etc all as the money gets saved (then spent). However the scope is a sealed unit that can only be mounted and removed, nothing else is in my power to do.

So now I buy more scope than my gun can use, but as I save up I bring the gun up to realize the scope's full potential.


For me personally, it's always been more satisfying to allow a poorer gun to shoot to its full potential by mounting a better scope on it (e.g. leupold scope on an enfield). The other way around I've always felt that I was holding a potentially good gun or good gunsmithing on the gun back because of a cheap scope.

There's also the rugged reliability question. Which is more likely to go south after hard use - the scope or the rifle? Have the rig take a dump on on rocks or ice after a slip and fall and which would you suspect has gone out of wack??
 
Elite 4200's or the newer Elite series are great glass for the money. My belief is like everything else in this world, you can severly overpay for a product just because of the brand name on it.
 
I own a few scopes in a mix of price ranges.I had a Japan made 2-7x32 tasco world class for 19 yrs and used it on 4 different rifles,.303 brit,.270 win,.30-30 win and a .30-06.I fired several hundred rounds before the internals gave up.I have a mueller 2-7x32 multi shot on a very light and hard kicking .300 savage.I bought it as a curiousity and wasn't expecting much.This scope is rock solid.I thought it crapped out this fall but it was a new ammo i was trying.I own burris fullfield II's,bushnell 3200 elites,Leupold vx-II's among others.The most expensive scope i have is worth $500.Haven't had a problem.Take it for what it's worth.Personally i think a lot of higher end scope makers charge a premium just for their name.
 
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