How NOT to Change a Barrel on a B22 - A story of my misdeeds for your entertainment

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I'm a lefty. That makes gun shopping hard. Even the manufacturers that offer lefty models don't give us the good stuff - such is the case with my Savage B22 F. Not available in lefty config with a heavy barrel. I shot it for a while with the sporter barrel, wasn't really happy with the accuracy, and decided to swap on a barrel from a right handed B22 FV-SR to try that out. Got my headspace gauges, made my own action wrench because there wasn't one commercially available (just some flat bar cut to match dimensions and clamp on to the outside of the action), and headed to the garage. Can't be that tough with the barrel nut system, right? After all, it's a breeze on my centerfire rifle which is one of the reasons I got this 22 in the first place. Well... I offer this story of my shame for your entertainment.

Threw the barrel in a barrel vise and tried to loosen the smooth barrel nut with a strap wrench. I tried some heat and penetrating oil with no success. That thing was stuck on there so tight that I literally broke my strap wrench. I tried to make my own clamping style barrel nut wrench inspired by commercial products for the centerfire smooth barrel nuts, but that didn't grip it very well either and left some marks in the barrel nut finish. If I didn't have this take off barrel to confirm the threads I would have thought I was turning it the wrong way. I had an extra barrel nut from the take off barrel anyway, so at this point I decided to sacrifice the barrel nut.

Out comes an 18" pipe wrench. A little heat with the propane torch, some grunting on the pipe wrench, and no progress on the effing nut (other than the surface destroyed by the pipe wrench of course). Then I noticed my receiver is a little bit bent. It twisted a bit while I was holding it steady with the action wrench and torquing on the barrel nut with the other hand. Hardly noticeable to the naked eye but the point of this was to get an accurate 22 and I'm not expecting to get there with a bent receiver, so I accept that I have destroyed this rifle. Now that it is destined for the trash, I still would like to get the nut off just for my own satisfaction and perhaps I could learn something along the way. Plus, y'know, social distancing and I'm pretty bored.

I tried some less careful grunting with the pipe wrench, and even got a bigger one out and had a pipe on the end of it for some extra leverage. But nothing has budged except the receiver is slightly more tweaked. This thing can go to hell, it may be a failed project but this nut is not going to defeat me. Out come the redneck rusty car bolt methods. I cut the nut off with an angle grinder so it's just the barrel threaded into the receiver. Still can't get the barrel out or thread it in any further. I try heat, I try letting it cool to room temp, but she's real good and stuck. I grunt and curse away, then grab the angle grinder and cut the barrel off, just leaving a little stub sticking out of the receiver. I weld a 4' length of 2" flat bar on to the end of the stub as a big T handle and put the action in a vise (and not a barrel vise). With my ridiculously over sized T handle I get about 1/4 turn before the welds fail. Re-weld, brake it again with no progress.

Everything is thoroughly destroyed but that damn barrel stub is still in the receiver. Angle grinder comes back out, receiver gets cut into pieces to signify the end of this project, and I admit defeat and go get some lunch. One of the receiver pieces still has the barrel stub threaded into it.
 

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Thanks for sharing your misfortune in such a comical fashion. I told a young fellow in our deer hunting gang he should clean his scope, the lenses had dust on them from sitting. He called me later that night and said the crosshairs must have come off from cleaning the lenses. I was dumbfounded and told him to bring the scope over for me to look at. Apparently he thought you clean all the lenses so he unscrewed the eyebox off and cleaned the inside of the lens which housed the crosshairs. He screwed it back on and assumed hed wiped the crosshairs off the glass when he could no longer see them. Redfield illuminator scope destroyed. Hindsight is a perfect thing.
 
A tale of woe...

Here is what I have done with a barrel nut that was resisting polite persuasion - I cut a torque relief groove near the shoulder. I have also put the barrelled receiver in the lather and turned to nut off. Only the barrel nut is sacrificed.
 
So, I'm the the right place. I to have made mistakes. I appreciate all the information. Savage has done nothing but disappointed me lately. All the threads anywhere on a a savage are so disgusting. Most gull and cause problems with removal. Just putting on a 20 moa base became repairing threads. But they shoot good
 
If people stop putting up with guns that are poorly made, the manufacturer either goes tits up or is forced to build better quality! I will not buy a Browning or Savage firearm because of this. Browning would rather sell stickers and seat covers than produce quality like they once did. Poor John Moses has rolled over in his grave enough times to be considered a Gator on a feeding frenzy. Savage is worse by producing junk that targets new shooters. I bought a new Browning T-Bolt target stainless 17 HMR with an (adjustable trigger). Should have turned into a class action lawsuit for straight out lying and false advertising. That (Gold Trigger) is painted plastic as well as 90% of the cassette they call a trigger. The adjustment is a set screw in a blind hole that does sweet FA. More people need to stop putting up with junk sold at high prices that needs altering or fixing from the get go! The T-Bolt was over $1200 with tax, what a deal on a trigger that breaks anywhere from 4lbs 6oz to 6lbs 13oz. It only broke twice at the lower setting out of 100 times. Replaced with a $350 aftermarket trigger that consistentky breaks at 12 ozs. Anyone need a YouTube modified plastic cassette trigger? It is way better but it will be given as scrap plastic. Sold all my Savage guns and have only three Brownings remaining.They will also go on the auction block. BUY QUALITY AND BUY ONCE!!! THEYLL GET THE MESSAGE.
 
Glad to see you guys are offering words of support rather than criticism. To Savage's credit, I don't believe they market the barrel nut as a quick change system but as a solution for consistent head spacing. So, it's not as if they told me it would do something it wouldn't.

I'm not very pleased with the 22 options on the market in general. It's either cheap plastic and pot metal crap or multi thousand dollar custom rifles. I guess right handed shooters have a few options in the mid range, such as the CZ's, but Lefty's haven't had that option since the 452. I hoped that Savage was trying to fill in that gap a little with the B22, but it's not quite there. I'd love a quality 22 made from real materials and built to last at a mass production price point, but I guess the manufacturers don't think the market is there. Next I think I'm going to try a custom 10/22 while I wait for someone to bring a quality Lefty bolt action to market
 
Glad to see you guys are offering words of support rather than criticism. To Savage's credit, I don't believe they market the barrel nut as a quick change system but as a solution for consistent head spacing. So, it's not as if they told me it would do something it wouldn't.

I'm not very pleased with the 22 options on the market in general. It's either cheap plastic and pot metal crap or multi thousand dollar custom rifles. I guess right handed shooters have a few options in the mid range, such as the CZ's, but Lefty's haven't had that option since the 452. I hoped that Savage was trying to fill in that gap a little with the B22, but it's not quite there. I'd love a quality 22 made from real materials and built to last at a mass production price point, but I guess the manufacturers don't think the market is there. Next I think I'm going to try a custom 10/22 while I wait for someone to bring a quality Lefty bolt action to market

I reckon ye be be right on that. Haven't had a chance to examine a B22 yet, but I can sure attest to the good accuracy from their Mark II units I've had. :)
Me current one's be CZ & they be nicer to look at and such, but the Savage Mk II FV-SR models can stay with 'em in the "tiny group" club with ammo they like.

Done numerous 10-22's up over the years and yes, they can be tweeked simple enough to get gopher hit accuracy out past 100 yds or so. Work the trigger
a tad and fit the action proper to the stock of yer choice and ye have the basis fer a real fun pest plopper. After that, it becomes a matter of want over need.
 
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