How safe it is to electrify a live ammo?

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I'm newbie, I want run a experiment related to electrify a live ammo, I want to know if it is safe to do so.:evil:

Want to try around 12V DC.

Let me refine my question, I have some Czech surplus 7.62x39. I want to sink one of the live ammos, only sink the tip of bullet head into home made salt water as positive pole; use pencil as negative pole, apply some current from some DC source, maybe from a old school adapter for phone. The copper will be removed from the tip and FMJ-NonFMJ mission accomplish with almost no cost.

I want to know if it is safe to do so.
 
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I wouldn't recommend "experimenting" with live ammo... although, in reality, there's very little you could do to set it off... unless you happened to be a firing pin travelling at 100 mph.

Still, you could prove me wrong.
 
Are you for real? When you blow yourself up, you make all us firearm owners look bad. I don't know how you got your firearms license, but it was obviously a stupid mistake.
 
fiddler said:
Are you for real? When you blow yourself up, you make all us firearm owners look bad. I don't know how you got your firearms license, but it was obviously a stupid mistake.
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Just like people look at me, as a driver, with scorn because some other guy drove drunk? Lighten up man...seriously.

OP: Nothing will likely come from the current itself, but set up properly the current passing through the round will cause it to get hot enough for ignition.
 
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Just like people look at me, as a driver, with scorn because some other guy drove drunk? Lighten up man...seriously.

OP: Nothing will likely come from the current itself, but set up properly the current passing through the round will cause it to get hot enough for ignition.
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I'm worrying the current will cause spark in the case and light up the power and ...........
 
I believe mythbusters did a thing where they used a .22lr as a automotive fuse. It heated up for a couple seconds and went off. It pretty much just makes a loud bang and throws a deformed empty casing. Its probably worth checking out
 
ok you got my attention .WHY do you wish to ELECTRIFY live cartridges?

Anyway I'm all for it ,just have a buddy record from start to conclusion an post results:))
 
I really don't know WHY anyone would want to do this, but as mentioned above, Mythbusters did this already, and yes it will get hot enough to go off. With no resistors or loads inline, it'll go off pretty much instantaneously.

EDIT: Mythbusters episode 1 of season 2. (2004)
[youtube]RePBVrM6-aE[/youtube]

Start watching at about 8:50
 
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householdreg said:
I want to try to electrolyze FMJ live ammo to get soft point ones.
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So you want to strip the copper off the tips of FMJ to make soft points?

Be aware that some FMJ utilize a bi-metal jacket, copper on the outside, then steel, then lead. My science is a little rusty, don't know if electrolysis will remove steel. Also consider that there can be more to it than just exposing the tip. Velocity, jacket design etc all play a part in how the bullet will expand. I think you'd be farther ahead to pull the FMJs and replace with a purpose-built soft point, but at least we know what you're doing now.

What calibre? And specifically which manufacturer/type of ammo?
 
I think that the casing would act like a Faraday cage and there would be no arching because that's not the easiest path for the electricity. Especially at boringly low voltage like 12V.

We do have a machine at work that has a 10V DC 3000 amp power supply, bet that would do it :)
 
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I want to try to electrolyze FMJ live ammo to get soft point ones.
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Take a file to the end and expose some lead. You'll be able to remove some copper but not the steel jacket that accompanies many FMJ rounds. Even if it is a solid copper jacket a file will work. that said do not remove too much material or you'll blow the lead out the front of the bullet upon firing as FMJ bullets have an exposed lead base(SP have an exposed lead tip and jacketed base). This can cause overpressure and barrel rupture if lead build up is too sever and the gun is fired again.
 
fiddler said:
Are you for real? When you blow yourself up, you make all us firearm owners look bad. I don't know how you got your firearms license, but it was obviously a stupid mistake.
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Anything this guy does will not reflect on me. Or you. Just as Wrong Way says.
Forcing people to get government permission in the form of a "firearms license" is the obviously stupid mistake.

To the OP: you can include a live round of ammo in a circuit and nothing will happen, unless somehow you can create high resistance through said cartridge. At which point, if it got hot enough, the powder/primer would self ignite.
 
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