How soon to clean after shooting corrosive ammo?

Corrosion begins the moment you've fired the first round of corrosive ammo. The rate varies depending on humidity AND which particular type of ammo you are using. Some is a lot more corrosive than others. Chrome lined bore helps slow it down, but the gas system still gets it.

Best tip I had regarding the issue: At the end of your session, fire a few non-corrosive rounds through the rifle. That blows a large portion of the corrosive salts out, and will usually reduce the amount of effort required in cleaning. Some claim to not bother doing a "corrosive" cleaning after using this method. I'm not that brave.
 
Thanks guys. Great information.

To Mark Williams. If you don't like the thread why would you post a response? If you don't see the point of the thread, why even click on it. The title was pretty easy to understand. Or did you just feel the need to say something negative?
 
GXW said:
Thanks guys. Great information.

To Mark Williams. If you don't like the thread why would you post a response? If you don't see the point of the thread, why even click on it. The title was pretty easy to understand. Or did you just feel the need to say something negative?
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I clicked on it as I did not think the thread could possibly be serious and that sparked my interest. Once on the thread I replied because that's what people do on internet forums. OK ?
 
GXW said:
Thanks guys. Great information.

To Mark Williams. If you don't like the thread why would you post a response? If you don't see the point of the thread, why even click on it. The title was pretty easy to understand. Or did you just feel the need to say something negative?
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How else Is he going to get his post count up? By offering legit advice and answers? That'll take too long...
 
GBG said:
How else Is he going to get his post count up? By offering legit advice and answers? That'll take too long...
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Thanks GBG, great response!

The reason I asked the original question was to find out if I took the gun out of town for a few days, would I have to clean it on the road or could I wait until I got back? Now I know to either shoot non-corrosive or take some windex, Simple Green or such with me. All the replies were great....well, except one.
 
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I clicked on it as I did not think the thread could possibly be serious and that sparked my interest. Once on the thread I replied because that's what people do on internet forums. OK ?
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If you're as intelligent as you say you are why didn't you provide an answer? Im assuming thats because you have zero knowledge on the matter and wanted to get a post. And at the same time put someone else down. Many threads on GCN are very very stupid, this one is not.

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How else Is he going to get his post count up? By offering legit advice and answers? That'll take too long...
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Well said.

GXW said:
Thanks GBG, great response!

The reason I asked the original question was to find out if I took the gun out of town for a few days, would I have to clean it on the road or could I wait until I got back? Now I know to either shoot non-corrosive or take some windex, Simple Green or such with me. All the replies were great....well, except one.
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Thats what I do also when I'm out of town. I just carry some WD40/Remoil with me and oil them down after the range, I can usually wait a few days or sometimes a week before rust starts. But on a normal range day they are cleaned right after shooting.

Cheers!
 
Hashhockey69 said:
If you're as intelligent as you say you are why didn't you provide an answer? Im assuming thats because you have zero knowledge on the matter and wanted to get a post. And at the same time put someone else down. Many threads on GCN are very very stupid, this one is not.
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Mark Williams said:
Just clean it as soon as you can. It has to be done anyway, there is nothing to be gained by putting it off.

I can't really see the point of this thread.
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I answered.

What's the big deal ?:confused:
 
It's not really your bad Hashhockey his answer was far to assuming. Who cares why the OP wants to know? Help him with your experience on the subject, or be rude, Mr. Williams opted for the latter.

Back to the topic at hand. As mentioned before humidity is huge. In the winter I've never had a problem with my CZ or SKS in storage. In the summer I've seen light rust form on a relatively clean bore in my CZ after a month in storage. I think a lack of storage oil was part of the culprit. I've been experimenting with different cleaning methods and found windex to be the best so far. I've just tried the "boiling water down the bore" method so I unfortunately won't be able to comment on its effectiveness for some time.
 
JDForBrkFst said:
It's not really your bad Hashhockey his answer was far to assuming. Who cares why the OP wants to know? Help him with your experience on the subject, or be rude, Mr. Williams opted for the latter.

Back to the topic at hand. As mentioned before humidity is huge. In the winter I've never had a problem with my CZ or SKS in storage. In the summer I've seen light rust form on a relatively clean bore in my CZ after a month in storage. I think a lack of storage oil was part of the culprit. I've been experimenting with different cleaning methods and found windex to be the best so far. I've just tried the "boiling water down the bore" method so I unfortunately won't be able to comment on its effectiveness for some time.
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And you are not assuming ?

Everyone knows that a bore needs to be oiled after cleaning, yet you appear to assume the OP may not. I can't see the point of your post. ( I hope that's not too rude for you)
 
Given that his question has been answered, no I wasn't assuming anything. Not everyone has time to oil the bore, and who is to say that everyone always has oil to do so right away?

I saw another consideration, effect and a timeline of corrosive ammo on the bore in storage. Apparently you can't understand the connections between the info being given by other posters and my own contribution?
 
You're not even trying to have a reasonable counter point. Also, you've yet to contribute one thing to this thread. In any case, if you feel the need to carry on please do it via PM so you can stop wasting everyone else's time.
 
I feel no need to nave a reasonable counter point as it's wasted on the unreasonable , but since everyone must surely know by now that they need to clean their bore asap duh !,what's the problem ?

Are you a member of the time police ?
 
JDForBrkFst said:
You're not even trying to have a reasonable counter point. Also, you've yet to contribute one thing to this thread. In any case, if you feel the need to carry on please do it via PM so you can stop wasting everyone else's time.
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Nonono he cant do that! That way he wouldn't be able to get his post count up!
 
Everyone, with the exception of Mark Williams, has given me awesome advice on my original question. It has been very helpful and is much appreciated. I'm trying to learn as much about these rifles as I possibly can and every bit of information helps. This is truly an awesome board and I'm glad to be here.

But Mark, for God's sake, GO AWAY!!! You just screw up all the good information and take all the fun out of this. I've seen you on other peoples threads and it's the same crap. In my redneck opinion you need professional help or possibly just an attitude adjustment. Either way, go get one of them right away. I'm not sure where to get the professional help, but with your mouth I'm sure you could get the attitude adjustment at pretty much any bar.

Again, thanks to everyone else.
 
GXW said:
Everyone, with the exception of Mark Williams, has given me awesome advice on my original question.
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What was wrong with my advise ?

If you want me to go away just use the ignore feature and magically I will disappear. It's no more complicated than cleaning a rifle bore. :)

PS, I think everyone failed to advise you to clean out the copper residue. But what do I know. lol
 
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Fired my Russian SKS Sat, Sun and Mon of the long weekend, when I cleaned it Tuesday evening
I had rust blooms on the first two inches of the gas piston and gas tube but non on the gas
port. Steel wool removed it but the piston is now pitted.

Prior to this I've alway drenched the barrel, gas piston, gas port and gas tube with oil
immediately after shooting and then cleaned the gun later the same day and never had
a problem, it's a shame because this gun has a superb trigger.

I suspect in ten years there will be a lot of rusted out gas tubes due to most
people not being dilligent with their maintenance. The rust that mil surp ammo
creates is very aggressive but it can be eliminated with a prompt, thorough
cleaning after shooting.
 
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Humidity is the main factor.

Corrosive primers use potassium chlorate which converts to potassium chloride after firing. This is a salt essentially equivalent in rusting properties to sodium chloride = common table salt.

In addition, some of the by-products of combustion are hygroscopic (water absorbing), so when the air is humid they actively absorb moisture from the air. Once you have moisture plus salt plus iron, its just a matter of time before you have rust.
 
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