Can anyone comment on how strong these Mare's Leg style guns are - either the Rossi or the Chiappa models? I'm thinking particularly of the ones in 45 LC. Will the 45LC models handle heavy loads - +P loads, for example, without breaking or damaging the gun? Experiences?
How strong are the Chiappa or Rossi Model 92 short rifles?
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Rossi as stated is chambered in 454 casull so you can hot load the crap out of it. As it is any 1892 action in modern steel will do wonders for pressure.
Here is an article for reference. Just remember to load up to these levels from normal loadings as every gun will pressure out differently.
http://www.gunblast.com/Paco_Legacy_454.htm
Here is an article for reference. Just remember to load up to these levels from normal loadings as every gun will pressure out differently.
http://www.gunblast.com/Paco_Legacy_454.htm
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What the others said.
I dug around quite a bit before buying an R92 in .454, just to be sure it could stand a regular diet of honest 60 000+ psi loads.
It can.
I dug around quite a bit before buying an R92 in .454, just to be sure it could stand a regular diet of honest 60 000+ psi loads.
It can.
That info is reassuring. The loads in that gunblast.com article, even in .45 LC, certainly are impressive! I'm wondering whether the short 12" barrel versions of the Model 92 are as strong as the longer barrel, full size versions? The 12" versions seem insubstantial - but maybe they are built just as strong. Also, I would expect the Chiappa to be at least as strong as the Rossi. Opinions?
There is always the possibility that the metal used in the lesser chamberings does not get the same alloy or heat treating as the .454Casull version. So I would be reluctant to go past the full SAMMI load pressures by much. But don't feel that this makes it less of a kick to shoot. There's so much focus on the use of low power loads for cowboy action that folks have this idea that ALL .45Colt rounds are mouse farts. But t'aint so. A full SAMMI power .45Colt with one of the heavier bullets will stand you back on your heels almost as much as a .44Mag.
Chiappa doesn't make a .454 version. So the metals they use may not be alloys that are as strong. Also I've read, heard and experienced enough of Chiappa's flakey internal detailing that I'm not a fan of their products at this point. It's a shame too since they make the OUTSIDES look fantastic. But the internals just have too many shortcuts. So I'd have to say that it's best to stick to Rossi.
Chiappa doesn't make a .454 version. So the metals they use may not be alloys that are as strong. Also I've read, heard and experienced enough of Chiappa's flakey internal detailing that I'm not a fan of their products at this point. It's a shame too since they make the OUTSIDES look fantastic. But the internals just have too many shortcuts. So I'd have to say that it's best to stick to Rossi.
I would worry less about the rifle than the construction of the cases for the caliber choice.
The construction of the newer high pressure pistol cases is more like that of rifle brass, and designed to handle higher pressures than the thin older style cartridge cases.
Something to consider, anyway. Buy the .454, if you need or want the power. If you are looking to do the two guns, one cartridge thing, consider that the use of the high powered cartridges in your handgun, may be an issue if the cartridges get mixed up.
Cheers
Trev
The construction of the newer high pressure pistol cases is more like that of rifle brass, and designed to handle higher pressures than the thin older style cartridge cases.
Something to consider, anyway. Buy the .454, if you need or want the power. If you are looking to do the two guns, one cartridge thing, consider that the use of the high powered cartridges in your handgun, may be an issue if the cartridges get mixed up.
Cheers
Trev
