How to deactivate a muzzle loader?

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I have a TC Mountain Carbine that i think i am going to make into a wall ornament.

I have done some searching, but is there anything that needs to be done to display a muzzle loader to ensure it is legal?
I am not finding any answers
Thanks
 
There actually are RCMP guidelines for deactivation of a muzzleloader. If I remember correctly, nipple welded to breech; hammer welded to nipple; breechplug welded to barrel; pin welded in barrel.
infideleggwelder's suggestion makes a lot more sense.
 
As a muzzle loader isn't a firearm (for parts of the firearms act at least) do storage and display regs cover them (considering they're based on the firearms act)?

Better yet, from the regs:

Antique Firearms
14 (1) An individual may store, display or transport an antique firearm only if it is unloaded.
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That's the only limitation I see. (Edit - it's not an antique, my bad.)
 
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Does anyone sell a locking device that could be slipped into the muzzle and locked in place? Similar to those chamber locks but from the muzzle end?
 
I've not heard of such a device. Would certainly render the gun unusable in an unobtrusive manner.
 
Something like that could work. Basically an expanding internal collet would do the job. There could be a universal locking device and a series of polymer sleeves to adapt for different bore sizes.
 
I would go for Suther suggestion. The .410 locking device would be workable to fit the barrel without altering the gun.
 
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If I wanted to 'deactivate it permanently' for myself, I would ignore the RCMP guidelines for a starter.

I would remove the nipple and weld the hole solid. That in itself makes it inoperable.

Then I would mill a 1/2 inch slot on the underside of the barrel about an inch long towards the rear of the barrel ahead of the breech plug, deep enough into the barrel to reach the opposite side. That doubly makes it inoperable.
 
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I dislike the idea of milling a slot in the bottom of the barrel; if the nipple is not welded up, a person could load the gun conventionally and it would blow the stock to pieces when fired. Welding the vent hole on a flinter would be worse in the sense that it could be drilled easily without removing the barrel from the stock. Think in terms of a barrel secured by pins rather than a hooked breach and barrel keys. I think you would be better off fastening it to the wall with U-bolts, in a way they could not be easily removed. The basis of display for a functional gun is that they cannot be simply picked up, loaded and shot. If the lock had a V spring, it is a simple matter to remove it and the gun is more secure than a trigger lock. Keep in mind that a trigger lock can be broken apart with a screw driver, in seconds

cheers mooncoon
 
mooncoon said:
I dislike the idea of milling a slot in the bottom of the barrel; if the nipple is not welded up, a person could load the gun conventionally and it would blow the stock to pieces when fired. Welding the vent hole on a flinter would be worse in the sense that it could be drilled easily without removing the barrel from the stock. Think in terms of a barrel secured by pins rather than a hooked breach and barrel keys. I think you would be better off fastening it to the wall with U-bolts, in a way they could not be easily removed. The basis of display for a functional gun is that they cannot be simply picked up, loaded and shot. If the lock had a V spring, it is a simple matter to remove it and the gun is more secure than a trigger lock. Keep in mind that a trigger lock can be broken apart with a screw driver, in seconds

cheers mooncoon
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Yes I think by simply removing the spring would be the best solution.
 
Display of Non-Restricted Firearms

8 An individual may display a non-restricted firearm only if it

  • (a) is unloaded;
  • (b) is rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device or is in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into; and
  • (c) is not displayed with and is not readily accessible to ammunition that can be discharged from it.

So, trigger lock?

Though, you want to disable/deactivate.

Considering none of the individual parts are firearms or controlled - only when assembled. Deactivate all the components individually and permanently? (I don't know why anyone would want to temporarily deactivate)

Guidelines say weld up the nipple and blind cross pin through the barrel ahead of the nipple.

I say sell it and get yourself a flint wall hanger.
 
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mooncoon said:
I dislike the idea of milling a slot in the bottom of the barrel; if the nipple is not welded up, a person could load the gun conventionally and it would blow the stock to pieces when fired.

cheers mooncoon
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I didn't say to just mill a slot in the barrel...

"I would remove the nipple and weld the hole solid. Then I would mill a 1/2 inch slot on the underside of the barrel"
 
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