How to deal with the DA/SA trigger in Production

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Seeking any helpful suggestions on this one.

Had been exclusively shooting 1911 style pistols for over 30 years when I convinced my wife to give IPSC a try. We purchased CZ75 SPO1 Shadows, which are INMO fantastic pistols,

BUT:

Now almost 3 years later, with over 18,000 rounds thru my CZ SPO1 shadow, I am still struggling with the first DA shot going left. Infuriating, frustrating and disheartening, as the CZ is a fine pistol, but it is costing me mega points on the scoring. Stuck in the upper eschelons of B class with nowhere to go.

Is anyone able to provide helpful suggestions as to a possible fix?

I've tried different grips, the usual CZ custom main and recoil springs, and mega rounds down range.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

Marc
 
Steady squeeze while maintaining sight picture.
Dry fire practice.

Not to diminish the 18,000 rounds you've fired, but quality over quantity is huge in this game.

If you've hit the wall and see no real chance of improvement on your own, get qualified instruction to take you to the next level.

Where you located?
Eric Grauffel may be coming to Ontario this summer for training sessions.
 
Prep the trigger when pressing out from the draw. Practice until you are able to get the trigger within 2-3mm of the break point on every draw. This way the first shot will require only small stabilization and break as the sights align on the target. And remember: the ultimate goal is to "snap" your arms out during the presentation (practice slowly at first to ensure the muscle memory is correctly developed).

While I think the CZ is an excellent design, the Grand Power pistols have a bit of an edge with the "feel" of the trigger. GPs have a very definable point in the trigger pull where the hammer is almost completely retracted and ready to fall. I find the Shadow trigger much less readable.
 
1r1r gave some good advice. Staging is helpful but some grip changes might also reduce the effect of the da pull/trigger break. Review your weak hand /strong hand technique to see if you can get more stabilization from the weak hand or reduce impact of the strong hand on "low and left" shots. But the previous post is lost of the answer.
 
Assuming you're right handed and pushing your shots to the left, would this not indicate that you are using the tip of your finger on the trigger rather than the pad of your finger? With not enough finger on the trigger, you're pushing it sideways as well as pulling it back.

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I would experiment with amount of finger on the trigger. Play around and see what works. If you place the trigger in the first joint I bet things will improve. I don't have a CZ but I do shoot DA revolver
 
Do lots of dry fire practice in DA. Focus on the front sight not moving to build good muscle control/memory. Added bonus is if you do a lot of reps each day, it will build your trigger finger strength.

Also, would be a good idea to have an instructor or really experienced shooter look at your grip. Easy for some bad habits to creep in and the Shadow can be a longer reach to the trigger in DA mode than you are used to from SA triggers.
 
Just to be contrary to previous advice, one smooth trigger press with no stopping in the middle. Only do it as fast as you can keep the sights aligned. Also be sure it is your first shot that you're pulling. I caught myself screwing up the second shot a couple times. That's not intuitive.
 
Figure 11 nailed it. Watch your front sight, it determines the speed you can pull the trigger. If it moves, you're pulling too fast. Simple.
 
How far to the left is the DA shot hitting and at what distance ? Does the SA shot hit dead centre or is it out as well at the same distance ?
 
DA dryfire will help...but you have to do it realistically,...go as fast as you would in a match....ACTUALLY,...go FASTER..while still getting a good sight picture. Go to the range...set up steel targets if you have access to some,...or plates. Practice from the draw DA, decock and do it again,..and again,...and again..etc.
. Good feed back. If you can do it consistently, you are putting yourself in a position to get A's, as the steel plate is usually smaller than a A zone ipsc target. My DA is not as light as some, but smooth so there is no jerking movement with the trigger. Don't just limit yourself to 11y, or 15 y plates...put those suckers up at 40 and 50 yards.
 
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