How to start hunting?

I have an offer.....

I have 100 acres near bancroft, Ontario.. I have deer running rampant here... I have been toying with the idea of learning to hunt.. My father passed before he handed down any of these experiences to me...

And I've decided that this would be the year.. I don't need the meat but I need the experience... If there is someone who wants a place to hunt and is willing to put up with a newbie or two I can give you a place to hunt...

If I read the charts right I'm in WMU 57.... (thought I was 55A) but that's a couple blocks north....
 
bear.23 - if the deer are running rampant I'd be more than willing to help out... I wouldn't be able to teach you much but it would make my learning experience much easier if I knew where the deer were hiding...

bigredd - thanks for the offer but with the way gas prices are that's a long drive for yard work :p

i6s1 - great tips, I'll ring up the geotechs at work and see what series maps they have on the hard drives... I have most of the gear for camping / the field less the game prep kit. I have both an SKS and a .303 and can shoot them well, so that's a big cost I can forgo until I become a serious hunter. I also plan to get a shotgun for 3 gun matches and the extended season is appealing, will a 18"bbl, slugs and ghost ring sights do the trick for less than 100m??

Signguy - I do indeed know where CRPTC is, I've spent plenty of time there over the years. If you border the Ranges you may thank me for some of the the sweet sounds of hand grenades we treat you too on a regular basis :D
Next time I head out that way I'll give you a PM.

Again, great replies, you guys are a huge help!! I'm sure there are many in the same boat as me, who want to give hunting a try but have no idea where to start.
 
Mike_R23A said:
Signguy - I do indeed know where CRPTC is, I've spent plenty of time there over the years. If you border the Ranges you may thank me for some of the the sweet sounds of hand grenades we treat you too on a regular basis :D
Next time I head out that way I'll give you a PM.
well i use to take care of all the honey huts on site till they put in the inground 2 stalls and switched to differnt supplier many times i was down in the back never heard the grenades going off but theres been a few times where i have had to have on of the Range control guys escort me through the gateed of fsection on the west side fo the perimiter going to area 7
 
Mike_R23A said:
will a 18"bbl, slugs and ghost ring sights do the trick for less than 100m??

Not unless it's rifled. Smooth, usually 30-40. Try it once you get it, you and the gun might be capable of a bit more or a lot less.
 
bear.23 said:
I have an offer.....

I have 100 acres near bancroft, Ontario.. I have deer running rampant here... I have been toying with the idea of learning to hunt.. My father passed before he handed down any of these experiences to me...

And I've decided that this would be the year.. I don't need the meat but I need the experience... If there is someone who wants a place to hunt and is willing to put up with a newbie or two I can give you a place to hunt...

If I read the charts right I'm in WMU 57.... (thought I was 55A) but that's a couple blocks north....

If you need to take care of the deer up there...I'd be more than happy to do some 'tidying up' for you and give some advice along the way. My Grandfather passed down his knowledge to me and I only see it right to pass it along to anyone else who's interested.

Too many hunters are 'closed up' and won't give advice or offer tips on locations. Part of it is due to competition from other hunters and protecting your chances on 'filling the tag'.

I have to admit...if I'm out with a group sometimes it's more exciting to watch someone else take game, due to the excitement on their face.
 
Well, I never said I was never going to do a shotgun hunt, I am just more interested in getting an animal with my 30-06 first and then I can venture off onto other things like shotgun or maybe even bow. The biggest problem is finding property to hunt on around my area. I have been out over the last month, asking people, droppling letters in their mailboxes but all with no sucess. So I think I will just stick to crown land which sucks because I don't know where anything is out of my area.

Bear.23, I am also a n00b and if allowed, I would love to come up and do some hunting and maybe even learn something from you or any other experianced hunter there.


I don't like how people like to hide a good spot to hunt. Yes I know you don't want a bunch of Yah00's comeing and ruining your favorite hunting spots and stuff like that but not everybody is bad and most of us will walk out of there learning something.
 
with your military experience, I bet you have a lot of hunting skills you may not be aware of. When someone teaches you the ropes and how to read sign, animal tracks, rubs, gametrails, still hunt, etc the deer wont stand a chance!

Just a quick thought, in Wainright Alberta they have a deer hunting season on the military base open to the public. Maybe you should check into this and see if there are any hunting seasons on military bases in Ontario.
 
I'll look into that, but I remember a General who got in some hot water hunting deer from a chopper... :D

I wish I could hunt at Connaught, there are dozens and dozens of deer there, all over the place, taunting me :mad:
 
Just get out in the woods a bit. Start looking around where you think they may winter, see if you can find some sheds, get used to seeing them in the woods (it actually takes a bit of work to train your eye to pick out deer in the woods well.) If you see does, go check out thier tracks, get used to seeing what they look like, see if you can tell where they came from and went to.

Read a bit about deer biology and habits for the species you'll be hunting. (whitetail are different than mulies). Spend as much time as you can looking at pictures of deer too, it acutally helps train your eye up a bit.

You'll quicky find if you go out with experiecend folks that the guys who've been at it a long time can pick deer out long before you can, or ones you've missed. Getting a better eye for picking them out will up your chances a great deal.
 
Hi Newbies

I have been hunting for about 20 years. I have some advice for you guys, I hope you don't mind. 20 years certainly doesn't qualify me as an expert. Someone posted about hunting for 30 years and still learning and that is one of the best descriptions I have ever heard. Good on that guy. For what it is worth, here are some of the things I have learned about hunting. I am a born and raised city kid and I have no relatives or buddies, so I feel like you are kind of in the same boat I was in when I started hunting.


1. Take the hunters saftey course. I live in Manitoba, so here it is offered by the Manitoba Wildlife Federation. I am not sure about Ontario, but I'm sure there is a wildlife fderation in Ontario who would set you on the right course.

2. Start off with smaller game. Deer is a very big first step. I started hunting with small game. I shot some rabbits and grouse. This is very fun and rewarding hunting. Just go to crown land (forrest) with plenty of logging type roads and trails that you can walk/drive and see what you can spot. I used a 12 gauge for grouse, .22 rifle for bunnies. 12 gauge works well on bunnies too, just make sure you put the sight bead on the head, otherwise you have lots of pellets in your supper. Hunt ducks and geese. Farmers are getting to the point of thinking geese are a pest, and there are plenty who want rid of them. This is a great opportunity to develop a relationship. Who knows? If he lets you on his land to shoot geese, maybe in a few years, he will invite you out for deer or give you permission for deer. Just don't be a #### and always respect him/her. What they say is the law, don't f#ck it up. Besides, cleaning and gutting small game is good practive for when you shoot something larger. The insides of a rabbit look the same as a deer, just smaller.

3. When you do start big game hunting, the best method I have found is to hunt from a tree stand. You go in the bush and look for sign. Scrapes are large areas on the ground where a doe in heat urinates. Mr. Buck comes along and gets all hot and bothered at the scent and digs at the ground with his hooves and with his antlers. The gound get all scraped up. This is almost exclusively under an overhanging branch of a tree. The other important sign to look for is called a rub. This is where a buck rubs his antlers on a small diameter tree and rubs off all of the bark (because a doe left some scent on the tree), right down to the bare wood. This is usually on tress and saplings of less than 2 inches in diameter and not much more than two feet from the ground. When you see these signs, and after a while, you get to be pretty good at spotting them, you will know that there are does in the area, and some bucks as well. Bucks will return to scrapes and rubs, often they are in some kind of line.

4. Once you find a spot in the bush with lots of sign (scrapes and rubs), you look for a good place to set up a tree stand. Look for good sight lines and enough room to hear and see a deer for a 30-50 yard radius around you. Recent logging cuts are not too bad, if you place your stand near the edge. Deer will often go through the cut areas looking for fresh feed and sometimes will bed in these cut areas. Stand should be about 15 feet up in the tree and be comfortable enough to allow you to sit for at least a few hours.

5. Once up in the tree, you may want to use a pair of rattling antlers and/or a grunt call. This may attract some of the local bucks. Good books and videos available for this.

6. When you decide you want to walk and stalk instead of sit and wait, the most important thing to remember is not to cover too much ground. You are not in a race. You don't have to cover miles on trails searching for a deer. Your best bet is to walk very slowly and as quietly as possible. Stop for at least a minute every 10-20 steps and just listen. You will be surprised at how much you can hear. Besides, if you shoot a deer two miles from your vehicle on some trail that you can't drive on, then you have a 2 mile drag back to your vehicle. NEVER CARRY A DEAD ANIMAL. You always drag, although last year I did use a wheelbarrow and it worked awesome. Foot steps should be quite slow and deliberate with your feet gently landing on the ground, not stomping along. A deer can hear you coming and bugger off long before you will see it, if you are making lots of noise. Stepping softly makes very little noise and what noise does come from you sounds very natural, like an animal, not a human.

7. Join a local fish and game association and network. You will find that if you can get access to private land in farm country, the hunting is usually, but not always, better and the deer taste better because they are eating grains and hay, not tree leaves and bark. When you meet other hunters, ask them about hunting and their experiences. If there is one thing older hunters love, it's telling hunting stories. Ask lots of questions, especially how and why questions. Bring hunting up in conversations you have with people you meet. For example, you go the the wife/girlfriend's company Xmas party and you're sitting at the table with a bunch of people that you don't know, talk to the guys about hunting. Sometimes, you find out that the guy sitting next to your wife is a big time hunter. PAYDIRT!!:) Now instead of getting drunk with all of the other bored husbands and boyfriends, you get to get drunk and swap hunting stories.

8. Don't get dicouraged. I didn't get a deer my first (or second year). Mistakes are learning opportunities.

9. BE SAFE. Don't learn the hard way from a mistake.

10. There are some good books and videos (see point number 5). Rent them, borrow them or buy them, whatever. There is some really good advice in them. There are also some real stinkers, but after you watch/read a few, you will develop a knack for seperating the fact from the BS.

11. HAVE FUN and keep posting on gunnutz. The folks on this site are absolute gold, most of the time. My advice is to never start a thread about bear defense or which calibre is better 30-06 or .270. Good luck and let us know how you make out.
 
Last edited:
HAVE FUN and keep posting on gunnutz. The folks on this site are absolute gold, most of the time. My advice is to never start a thread about bear defense or which calibre is better 30-06 or .270.

Hah! Go stand in your corner. :)
 
Mike_R23A said:
I'll look into that, but I remember a General who got in some hot water hunting deer from a chopper... :D

I wish I could hunt at Connaught, there are dozens and dozens of deer there, all over the place, taunting me :mad:
theres a nice 8 pointer that was up around the fibua house during the rut last season almost slide into him with my work truck after the rut in mid dec
asked one of the RO's about the policy about hitting game in the back its pretty simple if no one says you delibertly went out of your way to hit it then its yours
 
There is some good information here.

There is some that is less good......for example:

A smoothbore shotgun is surely good with slugs for a lot more than 30 yards. Ghost ring sights are pretty good, and even a reasonably competent shot should put three into a pie plate at 75 yards with that set-up. Minute of pie plate kills deer dead.

Old farts like me rarely invite new guys WHO ARE STRANGERS to hunt with us because the hunt is one way we keep in touch with old friends, and there is a shared history and deep emotional bonds within a gang of guys that have been hunting together for years. Most years, most gangs will take one or two new guys, generally friends or relatives (sons, mostly) of current gang members, on probation for one year hunting. The new guy is OK, he gets to stay and become a member. If there is anything at all not right, he is never invited back. Call it tribalism if you will, but it is pretty basic group dynamics.

The best way in to a hunting situation is through PERSONAL contact, whether through work, social contacts, church, whatever - but almost always a person who is going to offer a hunting opportunity wants to know you a bit first. This is true of landowners for sure, but much more so is true of somebody who will actually TAKE you hunting. I do not go for an armed stroll in the woods with somebody I do not know. PERIOD. Life is too short and too precious to go out with somebody who might shoot me.

Gun Nutz is a great place to meet people, and I have hunted with a number of guys I met through the forum. But like dogs getting to know each other, there was a fair bit of "arsehole sniffing" first in every case.........

Good luck to the new guys, I started out on my own too, with a father that never hunted, and no mentors. It took me a while and lots of hard knocks to learn how to be a decent hunter.........

Doug
 
Back
Top Bottom