HOW TOO'S of buying restricted
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DaveMachine
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Nothing. Go out and buy it and then apply for an ATT so you can go and shoot it.
formerfarmer
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- Winnipeg, now
No problem as long as you are a member of a handgun club. Otherwise the CFO will say no way because you can't use it for target practice [ the only valid reason, for now ] to own a restricted.
DaveMachine
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Ooops, forgot about that one.
Buy it,
the CFO will need to be contacted by the seller to instigate the transfer, and will provide you a reference number. Next day, call and okay the transfer.
Then ask for an ATT (authorization to transport) from the point of sale to your residence. This may take a day or longer. Once you have the ATT, you can pick the firearm up, trigger lock it, lock case it, and take it home. Now you will need an ATT to take it to and from the range, so call CFO for that.
the CFO will need to be contacted by the seller to instigate the transfer, and will provide you a reference number. Next day, call and okay the transfer.
Then ask for an ATT (authorization to transport) from the point of sale to your residence. This may take a day or longer. Once you have the ATT, you can pick the firearm up, trigger lock it, lock case it, and take it home. Now you will need an ATT to take it to and from the range, so call CFO for that.
You don't need to be a member of a club to buy restricted. You can buy restricted firearms as a collector. People do it all the time.
You don't even need a firearms license to buy a restricted. You need one to have it transferred to you.
You don't need to get a ref.# or contact anyone if you're buying it from a dealer...
Well, this is certainly news to me. How does this work? Do you just give them the full asking price at the store, then walk out without the gun?
Say you have a restricted licence in the works and you want to buy the gun before it arrives. Leave the gun at the shop and when the licence arrives go through the transfer and ATT junk?
Maybe that's what ki11ercane is suggesting?
I don't know much about restricted firearms...
Maybe that's what ki11ercane is suggesting?
I don't know much about restricted firearms...
Here's another angle to look at. Let's say you don't have your restricted licence, but a friend or family member does. If you trust said person, you could theoretically give them the money to buy the gun and have them have it transferred from the store to them. The friend/family member would have to store the gun at their residence; but once you get your licence, you simply have them transfer it to you.
Huh? Who said that? I can't make it any more clear, and it's not worth the words to do so. It's an academic point anyhow, but it's explained clearly above. I'm out...
You guys are making it a little too complicated.
Anyone can buy a firearm in Canada, anyone, licensed or not. "Buying" a firearm is not the same as "acquiring" a firearm. Two totally different things. You can even sell a firearm to a child. If a guy came into my shop and said "I see you have a smoking deal on a SKS/Glock/shotgun but my PAL course isn't for 2 weeks and my license won't come for another six after that. Can I still buy the firearm?"
Me - of course you can! You can give me your paper notes/credit card/debit card and I'll "sell you" your firearm. I'll keep it here under my company name until you come back with your license. Once you do, I'll "transfer" it to you so you can "acquire it." And hey, if you want to shoot your Glock beforehand, give me a call and we'll go down to the range together and you can shoot the shart out of it. I'll take it back to the store when we're done.
Understand now?
I have three CZ-858's sitting in the safe right now, paid and invoiced for guys who don't even have a license because they are waiting for them to come in the mail. Once they get them, I transfer the gun to them and away they go.
And for the child remark, PAL's aren't issuable until you're 18, so you'd wait a long time to get your gun. BUT YOU CAN STILL BUY ONE!
Simple simple.
Anyone can buy a firearm in Canada, anyone, licensed or not. "Buying" a firearm is not the same as "acquiring" a firearm. Two totally different things. You can even sell a firearm to a child. If a guy came into my shop and said "I see you have a smoking deal on a SKS/Glock/shotgun but my PAL course isn't for 2 weeks and my license won't come for another six after that. Can I still buy the firearm?"
Me - of course you can! You can give me your paper notes/credit card/debit card and I'll "sell you" your firearm. I'll keep it here under my company name until you come back with your license. Once you do, I'll "transfer" it to you so you can "acquire it." And hey, if you want to shoot your Glock beforehand, give me a call and we'll go down to the range together and you can shoot the shart out of it. I'll take it back to the store when we're done.
Understand now?
I have three CZ-858's sitting in the safe right now, paid and invoiced for guys who don't even have a license because they are waiting for them to come in the mail. Once they get them, I transfer the gun to them and away they go.
And for the child remark, PAL's aren't issuable until you're 18, so you'd wait a long time to get your gun. BUT YOU CAN STILL BUY ONE!
Simple simple.
Ok, just to interjectit. You can buy a restricted weapon and have it shipped to you if you have jumped through all the hoops and are waitng for your R-PAL to arrive providing the CFO gives you comfirmation that the new classification has already been attached to your PAL#. Some outlets may require a photo copy of the front and back of your licence to ensure the right classification, but if they want to keep a satisfied customer, it's just 1 quick call to the CFO to verify it.
Spelling corrected.
If a gun shop is requiring you to photograph your PAL, that is not necessary, and as both an owner and shop owner, the answer to that is no on both sides. I have enough paperwork to keep track of already, and you have no reason to have your license photocopied. Shop somewhere else if a shop is making you do that.
If you don't have restricted class on your PAL, your transfer will not approve with the CFP. The CFO's role here is to grant conveyances to move your restricted firearms around or to complete a transfer from the CFP.
