How useful are Magpul MBUS for actual shooting?

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Before installing a set of MBUS on my Norc M4 I would like to know what to expect in terms of their actual usefulness. I can shoot two classes in our service rifle shoots if I use an optic with a QD mount and have a set of iron sights available as well. This only works if the Magpul sights are actually useful for shooting with. The range is 100yds and targets are full and half silhouettes. I am competitive with the stock Norc sights and want to remain so with the MBUS sights. Is this realistic or not?


Thanks,
Mark
 
On a course I did down in the states using a Bushmaster with just the rear MBUS I was getting palm sized or smaller groupings from 100 (prone). Hitting chest sized steel snap shooting up to 100, more often than not (don't have an exact %). Hit the same steel out to 300 with irons as well, but only hit maybe 60%ish from prone. Whenever I finally get my own AR I'll be putting MBUS on for sure. I don't really know what else I can tell you, other than make sure to get the real ones. There are some stores out there that sell the airsoft version, perhaps others here can more accurately describe the differences to look for. I unfortunately don't know all the little minute differences to look for.
 
The magpul sights suck huge nuts

Don't buy them! Troys are still my favourite, my Midwest industries rear sight is too bulky but the front is nice
 
I use Magpul sights (first generation) on my AR. I replaced the fat front sight post with a very slim one. It increased my accuracy ten-fold. They're pretty good and they are cheap compared to other sights from other manufacturers.
 
There are a lot on the market, some are really nice, like the Troys. My biggest complaint with the MBUS sights is that they are too thick and obscure your field of view. I suppose it's a matter of preference. Keep in mind that a lot of the options out there come with two peep sights built in, on with a smaller aperture than the other.
 
I use the MBUS as back-up on 3 ARs.

They do work, co-witness with eotech optics and vortex optics as well.

I don't seem to have any trouble hitting a 12" gong at 100y with em.....

I usually don't pull out my callipers to measure my groups when using irons. If I want to make holes close together I mount a scope....

YMMV
Cheers!
 
I use troys and they make me happy. That being said, I've stood next to a buddy using the mbus and we've both shot at a target 250 yards distant and were getting pretty damn similar results.

If you can shoot with irons, you can probably shoot with any irons. But if you use them a lot, I'd get something a bit nicer than mbus. I only have the Troy irons on my Tavor right now, and I feel like that's all I need for the moment.
 
Am I correct that you will completely remove the optic to use the irons? If so, just slap on the carry handle again and you are good to go. Takes a few seconds maybe compared to instant deployment of the folding MBUS but does that really matter?

The 3 I was referring to are flat top uppers, FFHG with no FSB. If I mount a scope I would have to remove a red dot and likely the rear bus as well. I do have one with a FSB and carry handle, but just the one.

I have only ever mounted a scope when doing load development.

He only irons are the MBUS, folded down usually. The only time I use them is if the battery dies in the red dot.........

Cheers!
 
The 3 I was referring to are flat top uppers, FFHG with no FSB. If I mount a scope I would have to remove a red dot and likely the rear bus as well. I do have one with a FSB and carry handle, but just the one.

I have only ever mounted a scope when doing load development.

He only irons are the MBUS, folded down usually. The only time I use them is if the battery dies in the red dot.........

Cheers!

Oops, meant to quote the OP in my post. My response was directed to him.
 
There are a lot on the market, some are really nice, like the Troys. My biggest complaint with the MBUS sights is that they are too thick and obscure your field of view. I suppose it's a matter of preference. Keep in mind that a lot of the options out there come with two peep sights built in, on with a smaller aperture than the other.
You nailed it...

Look, if you're going to be shooting only irons... Get something better. If you're probably going to put an optic on it or just going to be running it in a tactical carbine class at sub 50yrds, save the cash and get the Magpul. I personally run mostly Magpul MBUS on most of my Rifles (at least the ones with optics), but the ones that I shoot only irons with I put Troy's on there because they're so nice to shoot.

As for what brand, like everyone else here, Troy (Worth the money)... I also like the DOA aperture, its very fast and easy to shoot with.
 
Am I correct that you will completely remove the optic to use the irons? If so, just slap on the carry handle again and you are good to go. Takes a few seconds maybe compared to instant deployment of the folding MBUS but does that really matter?

My plan is to use a QD Burris P.E.P.R. mount for the optics. I am mounting a longer FF handguard and shaving the FSB, so the original front sight will be gone. I could certainly run a front MBUS and the carry handle rear aperture if they are compatible on elevation. I have pulled the handle and reinstalled it with no loss in zero, so that is not an issue.


If you can shoot with irons, you can probably shoot with any irons. But if you use them a lot, I'd get something a bit nicer than mbus. I only have the Troy irons on my Tavor right now, and I feel like that's all I need for the moment.

Look, if you're going to be shooting only irons... Get something better.

Fair enough, half the use will be irons. How much are the Troy's and where to find them this side of the 49th?


Mark
 
MBUS are awesome....for what they are i.e. "Back Up Sights",
I had a set on my Ruger SR22, and they worked fine for plinking to 50 yards.
I have them mounted on a bunch of flat top uppers...300 Blackout, 50 Beowulf, 9" .223, etc., where I am using either a Aimpoint Micro, or some type of 1-4X variable as the primary system...i.e. the MBUS are there in case of failure of the primary optic.
My life doesn't depend on any of these 'systems' so if one of them goes for a sh** during a range session ...no biggie.
I didn't feel like shelling out for Troy foldable BUIS on every upper I own...too many $ tied up in something I'm likely never going to use.
If you are going to use 'irons' as your primary sighting system, with a fixed front sight, I would go with a narrow front post, and some variant on the National Match rear sights.
Troy folders are acceptable, but you likely won't have the same precise 'sight picture' as the National Match.

Therefore, for what they are designed for, the MBUS are a cost effective solution as they are likely going to spend 99% of their existence folded down, out of sight.....
 
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