How were the Russian SKS's brought in?
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It had to be a wholesaler that bought-off all the old russian stock.
Now who that wholesaler is remains to be seen...
Now who that wholesaler is remains to be seen...
Brown Bear ammo is terrible. Patterns like a shotgun at 100 meters and stinks something fierce. I had picked up 60 rounds from a gun show here, was a waste of money. Wolf Military Classic is ok ammo, Norinco Silverbox is more accurate though.
They are not allowed in the US. That is part of an existing trade agreement between Russia and the US.
Sealed crates were shipped from the Russia via Czech republic to IZH. Bell's most likely via the same route.
Sealed crates were shipped from the Russia via Czech republic to IZH. Bell's most likely via the same route.
I talked to someone (a woman) at IZH, and she said that it is not allowed under Russian law to sell of their SKS's.
I take that to mean that all these current ones came from a country other than Russia, perhaps Ukraine as Tozman suggests. Or any of the other countries that used to be part of USSR.
Anyone know for sure?
As for the route they took, yes they did have to transit third countries, That was the reason for most of the delay according to Jerry at Bell.
I take that to mean that all these current ones came from a country other than Russia, perhaps Ukraine as Tozman suggests. Or any of the other countries that used to be part of USSR.
Anyone know for sure?
As for the route they took, yes they did have to transit third countries, That was the reason for most of the delay according to Jerry at Bell.
'Cause that's not the way they came!
Russia has a history of distributing via the Czechs going back to the cold war. You could always call IZH for the full scoop.
Crates had packing slips in Russian language. From Ukrainian stores? Why not?
They were shipped out via Czech Rep. and imported by IZH who naturally have a very close association with the Russian arsenal system. I imagine that the Ukrainian system is still connected as well.
I have no idea were Bell got theirs.
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They were Yugoslav M59/66 types.
Here's the article:
Toronto Star
15 Dec 2002
"SANDRO CONTENTA
EUROPEAN BUREAU
LONDON—Thousands of rifles that may have been bound for Vancouver were seized in an Italian port because they're capable of launching grenades, Italian police say.
"They're war weapons," said Antonio Militello, police chief in the southern Italian port of Gioia Tauro where the shipment was seized.
"All of them have the ability to launch grenades, so they're certainly not weapons that one collects as antiques," he added in an interview yesterday.
The shipment of 6,000 SKS semi-automatic rifles, which are fitted with bayonets, was seized in Gioia Tauro Friday morning after police decided they did not match the description of antique rifles noted on the boat's manifest.
They were in three, 8-metre-long containers that arrived at the Italian port Nov. 22. They came on a Croatian ship that picked up the cargo the day before in the port of Bar in Montenegro.
From the Italian port, they were to have been picked up by another ship destined for stops in Norfolk, Va., and Vancouver. Italian police say they have no idea who owns the cargo, or where it was to have been delivered.
"We don't know if Canada was the final destination for the weapons," Militello said, adding he also had no idea if the RCMP or Vancouver police would become involved in the investigation.
An RCMP spokesperson in Vancouver said Friday the Mounties had no comment on the investigation.
SKS semi-automatic rifles are manufactured in several countries, including Russia and China. Most models are legal in Canada and the United States and generally used for hunting, according to Canadian and American gun dealers advertising the rifles on the Internet.
"The SKS has taken the USA by storm," one gun site proclaims. "These rifles have been imported from China and Russia by the tens of thousands."
Some SKS models, generally those manufactured in Yugoslavia, are fitted with grenade-launching muzzles.
Those types are banned in California."
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So I wonder what happened to those seized yugo SKS?
Also former Soviet satellite states have no problem selling off their Russian surplus. Could have been from Hungary, Georgia or even the Ukraine among many other places.
There are caves, and wear houses of this stuff all over Eastern Europe.
Also former Soviet satellite states have no problem selling off their Russian surplus. Could have been from Hungary, Georgia or even the Ukraine among many other places.
There are caves, and wear houses of this stuff all over Eastern Europe.
