How would you guys feel about recieving your custom barrel with rust on it?

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So like the title, I recieved my custom barrel last month after an eleven month wait and when I got it I was FURIOUS! to find rust on the crown and in the chamber. I took pics immediately and sent them to shop I ordered from. I was told not to worry and that it would just be surface rust. He also said just go shoot it and let me know if there are problems.

I have about 400 rounds through it now, It seems very picky and I'm having trouble finding something that it will shoot consistently. I've communicated this and I dont think the vendor cares whatsoever. Not sure what to do....
 
I wouldn't have shot a single round through it at all and demanded a refund for that GARBAGE they sent you.

If vendor refuses to exchange or refund, I would post their business name publicly so nobody else gets sent garbage like they did to you.
 
You think a refund is warranted after I put 400 rounds through it? I couldnt help it...I waited 11 months for it...I NEEDED to shoot it.
 
Wouldn't rusting in the crown be a HUGE deal in a match barrel... Do you have pictures of it to post? I'd like to see the extent of the rust.. Seriously how much would it take to coat it in oil before they sent it and make the purchaser aware of the oil treatment and the need to clean it before shooting the first shot ... Sounds shotty to me
 
Wouldn't rusting in the crown be a HUGE deal in a match barrel... Do you have pictures of it to post? I'd like to see the extent of the rust.. Seriously how much would it take to coat it in oil before they sent it and make the purchaser aware of the oil treatment and the need to clean it before shooting the first shot ... Sounds shotty to me

That was my thought as well, this being only my second build and the fact that this is from a very well known dealer I just went with it to see for myself.
 
I can not understand why you would get a new barrel with rust on it, what kind of :bigHug::bigHug::bigHug::bigHug: do they use now to make a barrel, have guns in my cabinet that are coming up 100 Yrs old and no rust to be found on any of them??????
Don't know...Kreiger so it should be good steel. Although it has no marking whatsoever and I didn't order from Kreiger so who knows what I got.
 
You think a refund is warranted after I put 400 rounds through it? I couldnt help it...I waited 11 months for it...I NEEDED to shoot it.

You blew it! you never should have fired a shot. You should have sent it back immediately and demanded a new barrel be put on.
Sorry about your luck.
 
You blew it! you never should have fired a shot. You should have sent it back immediately and demanded a new barrel be put on.
Sorry about your luck.
I disagree , he brought it up to the retailer and they told him it was just surface rust and it should be fine... Now 400 rounds in a bit much but when you figure in break in 50-100 shots, then attempting load development I can easily see 300 shots before you knew 100% that the issue was more than the retailer let on. 400 is a bit much...

What caliber are you talking about here?
 
I disagree , he brought it up to the retailer and they told him it was just surface rust and it should be fine... Now 400 rounds in a bit much but when you figure in break in 50-100 shots, then attempting load development I can easily see 300 shots before you knew 100% that the issue was more than the retailer let on. 400 is a bit much...

What caliber are you talking about here?

.223 Rem
 
I can easily think of how you would shoot 400 rounds breaking in and developing the load, switching powders, bullets and such.. I'd keep on the dealer about this
 
Ok well lets see if I can get pics up. They're blackberry pics so they aren't very good.


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what do you mean there was no markings on it, all Kreiger barrels have lots of marking on them, all Krieger barrels, every darn one of them, Jefferson
 
what do you mean there was no markings on it, all Kreiger barrels have lots of marking on them, all Krieger barrels, every darn one of them, Jefferson

I should've mentioned, I didn't see this barrel until it was prefitted. What all was needed to get it to its current state I don't know.
 
if you felt is was that detrimental to performance ,would have been better to return it before installing and shooting it as the vendor could/would ,J possibly have corrected it before it created this thread .Even after your wait a little more would not have been that much more of an inconvience to set you mind at ease ,just an opinion?
 
I'm not quite sure if got the barrel via a gunsmith, who threaded chambered and crowned it for you, or from a barrel seller? The second of your photos seems to be of a crown (so that would be after the gunsmith did the lathe work), but your first photo (the one with ".224" stamped on it) seems to be of an unthreaded unchambered blank. (EDIT: actually perhaps that's a photo of the chamber; I can't see any thread, but the hole seems a bit bigger, and perhaps the marking is ".223" (i.e. the chambering) rather than ".224" (i.e. the barrel size))

If I were the gunsmith or barrel seller, I would have told you the same thing. A bit of rust like that is very unlikely to have any detrimental effect. However I would also have apologized profusely for this, because even though it doesn't really matter it also shouldn't happen. If you were in the least 'cosmetically sensitive' about these things it would be time to shift into 'go above and beyond the call' mode in order to keep you as a happy customer.

If I were the shooter receiving this, I would have been satisfied with the explanation and would have done exactly the same thing you did. BTW if things don't seem to be working, I can easily see it taking 400 rounds before you start to be sure of this. (BTW if it's otherwise a good action/stock/etc setup, I would try putting a 'known-good' scope on it that has just shot really good groups on another rifle, and try shooting your rifle with that).

Delivering a barrel with minor cosmetic defects is not right, and a reputable gunsmith or barrel seller should be expected to make it right. After you've given them a fair chance at making good in private conversation, if they still haven't done the right thing it would then be entirely proper to publicly post the facts of your experience - don't slander or slam them, but do post the facts of the matter for others to see.

Delivering a match barrel that doesn't shoot is definitely not right. It is hard to be sure that there really is a problem (hence my advice to really be sure of this before you potentially waste peoples' time on a wild goose chase). And it is very rare for a premium match barrel to not shoot - however it is not impossible and from time to time it does happen. There are two possibilities, one is that an error was made in the gunsmithing (in which case the gunsmith ought to fix that, at his expense, in my opinion), or that there was a flaw in the barrel (in which case the barrel supplier should replace it, at his expense, in my opinion). There's no need to get worked up about this, stuff like this does happen from time to time. But it is also quite fair to expect it to be made right.
 
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That stain on the muzzle face is cosmetic, and could have been/should have been/could be readily corrected. Doubt that it would be related to any shooting issues. The spot in the chamber would have no effect on shooting, and could be easily eliminated.
There can be any number of reasons for the rifle not performing. Going to be necessary to eliminate methodically eliminate them.
Kreiger barrel blanks are well marked on the breech face, but these can disappear on fitting. The caliber mark looks to be hand applied with a vibrating engraver.
 
The location of the rust makes me wonder if there might have been some inside the bore as well.

Any explanation as to the cause of it? I don't see air moisture doing it. So its either in shipping, or in the process and skipped steps before it ever left.
 
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