how you hold a 1911?

correct way to grip a 1911

  • like any other pistol, thumb over thumb towards target

    Votes: 124 58.2%
  • thumb rest over safety for support

    Votes: 89 41.8%

  • Total voters
    213
On the other hand, I remember there being a debate over people unholstering their 1911 and forgetting to dissengage the safety then pulling the trigger to no effect(I believe TDC was saying so)... the poll would seem to indicate that could be a fair possibility.


There are shooters (professionals) and then there are people who just own guns and likes to shoot stuff.
 
Sandy said it well. In addition to the (excellent) youtube from Jarrett, a major reason for riding the safety is to eliminate the possibility of engaging the safety when your thumb bumps it from underneath during recoil.

Yep, you can ride the slide, you can get a bit of a rub (I've never seen a serious one) and you can jam the gun, especially lightly sprung ones but check out the Swenson safety. It's so common that they actually build specific safetys for it.

As for forgetting to disengage your safety.....:rolleyes:
 
I would just add one note about using a high grip on a 1911. It assumes that the gun has a beavertail grip.

You would more than likely get "bitten" by the slide using a high grip on a mil-spec gun.

To add to what tgt40 said above, extended safeties don't take much pressure to engage because of the leverage, a small bump by your thumb will engage it. Another positive reason for riding it. Again, it isn't usually a problem with the standard short mil-spec safety.
 
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i used to use the cup and saucer hold but now i use the "standard- interlocked fingers the safety means nothing as i'm left handed- i still lean into the shot and put my weight on my front foot just as i was taught
 
I would just add one note about using a high grip on a 1911. It assumes that the gun has a beavertail grip.

You would more than likely get "bitten" by the slide using a high grip on a mil-spec gun.

I have no problems with a high thumb grip and a GI grip safety, but this can be a problem for people with fleshy hands.
 
I have no problems with a high thumb grip and a GI grip safety, but this can be a problem for people with fleshy hands.

Just found this in another thread

alright, stop with the chatting

shot a match yesturday with old school hammer and grip safety on my 1911. the blood dried out so it's looks less dramatic . :D

hammerbite.jpg
 
Non of the above...I use the pushNpull system...lockes the frame in a vise-like grip for consistant hits.

WOW...I just saw the pic above...how is that even possible? I have never experienced hammer-bite with any of my 1911's, EVER.
 
My understanding was that anybody using a isoceles stance with a support hand over strong hand was pulling back with that support hand.

Action movie grip is when you run your index finger of your support hand on the front of the trigger guard, I think.
 
In N.A. we are bombarded with American ideas on the subject. Elsewhere they have different systems developed under different environments. Todd Jarrett is a competitive shooter, his focus is a little different than say the Israeli combat style of shooting. Both have their merits, both have their weaknesses, neither is suited to everyone. Try them all and use what works for you.

Action movie grip is when you run your index finger of your support hand on the front of the trigger guard, I think.
Personally I find if I don't run my support index over the trigger guard my front sight is cocked slightly right when I draw with my eyes closed, not good for instinctive shooting, but that's just me.

Isosolese, weaver, straight arm, bent arm, yadda yadda, doesn't really matter as long as you're hitting what you're aiming at. I do think it important at least from a tactical point of view, that whatever system you choose or develop works for you under stress. The more instinctive and natural it is for you, the more it will be of use when things get hairy.
 
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Push/push, like this:
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Exactly.

That is PUSH PUSH...

No pull.

It also happens to be the most combat tested and competition tested way of getting shots on target. It has the added benefit of squaring you up to your target and presenting the toughest parts of your armor to the bad guys.
 
In N.A. we are bombarded with American ideas on the subject. Elsewhere they have different systems developed under different environments. Todd Jarrett is a competitive shooter, his focus is a little different than say the Israeli combat style of shooting. Both have their merits, both have their weaknesses, neither is suited to everyone. Try them all and use what works for you.


Personally I find if I don't run my support index over the trigger guard my front sight is cocked slightly right when I draw with my eyes closed, not good for instinctive shooting, but that's just me.

Isosolese, weaver, straight arm, bent arm, yadda yadda, doesn't really matter as long as you're hitting what you're aiming at. I do think it important at least from a tactical point of view, that whatever system you choose or develop works for you under stress. The more instinctive and natural it is for you, the more it will be of use when things get hairy.

How is it different? Do tell. I would say, IMHO, the best training and shooters around the world have much more in common than different.

As far as "yadda yadda" it totally matters if you want to get better.

"The more instinctive and natural it is for you, the more it will be of use when things get hairy." Sure, in a sense, you get that by training. Not by relying on the monkey brain.

If you train to pick your gun off a bench, how good are you going to be drawing from a holster? Knocked on your back etc.

Otherwise we would run rather than draw.. Or leap up into the trees.

That is the difference between the buys who run in the burning building, and those that run out...

PS- I appreciate any argument and debate about topics and do learn from other people. Looking forward to learning more from people who like to contribute and share - on topic.
 
There's a fine line between an argument and being argumentative. You've done a fine job at picking apart every line but seemed to have missed my only point. Be open to new ideas, experiment and use what works for you.
 
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