Humbled

I start low and work up. No harm done.

This is a hobby that gives me something to do and something to think about. And has done so for the last 50+ years.

My computer expertise is maxed out typing this message. Quick load is a non-starter.

This particular exercise was 'humbling" because of the magnitude of my guestimate of where to start. I thought 5 gr would be about right - and it takes about 8.5 gr. That is a HUGE difference when you are talking about a fast powder in a pistol case.

If I had started with 8 gr and it tuned out the correct load was 5 gr, that would be a different story.

Stay safe, guys.

Your selling yourself short. Quickload isn’t much harder to operate than a ballistic program. The program itself is pretty archaic though. It still needs a CD and only runs on PC.

I think you would really enjoy playing with it. It would confirm a lot of things you have learned by experience. Its not going to take away from your hobby but rather add to it.

Besides it makes reloading manuals obselete. Soon software will be the gold standard and nobody will use the manuals.
 
It doesn't have to make sense when it's so much fun!

The report and recoil are quite different, there's the whole sense of history (Trafalgar, Waterloo, US Civil War) it evokes, and there's nothing quite like a repeater loaded with BP cartridges to put up a really thick white smoke bank in front of your position. Everyone should try it at least once, but note it's addictive.

Granted, there's a lot more cleanup involved and the stuff is hygroscopic (gets soggy if exposed to humidity) and you have to pay attention to safety because it's more sensitive, and there are reasons people flocked to smokeless when it came out, but going retro still has its attractions.

But to get back to the point, the .45 Colt cartridge was designed for black powder fun like that, and that's why it's so excessively roomy inside by modern smokeless standards so you need to worry about building enough pressure on one hand and not double-charging on the other.

I use BP in some rifles and pistols, simply because it shoots better with cast bullets. It doesn't work better for firearms with bores not designed for BP.
 
Once again I see people talking about Quick load. Good but very outdated interface, not intuitive to use and not being developed much.

A much better alternative is GRT or Gordon's Reloading Tool. This is a free program being developed by a german guy who is a coding whiz. The free version is incredibly easy to use, exceedingly accurate and has generous support material. He is funding it through Patreon so for a $1/month you get more frequent updates and database improvements over the free version.

There is an active support and info forum for GRT on discord.

The downside is that it is primarily a European and South African driven project at the moment so the euro powders like Vectan and Vihtavouri have better database sets. This is changing as more americans are finding out about it and contributing data.

I don't want to get into trouble for hot-linking it so just google Gordons Reloading Tool and try it out.

Ganderite- Thanks again for your incredibly valuable contributions to this forum.
 
I have tried to get GRT working on my Android phone with no luck. I'm hardly tech savvy tho. I hardly use my computer anymore so that's unfortunate for me.
 
hmm, would this be the case with the 375/3855? aswell, or any cartridge in general?

i ran 270 wuth varget an 130gr, alot of case space?

also with my 375 running 20gr 2207 theres a fair bit of space... i guess it doesnt matter in my situation. just a good observation you found mate
 
hmm, would this be the case with the 375/3855? aswell, or any cartridge in general?

i ran 270 wuth varget an 130gr, alot of case space?

also with my 375 running 20gr 2207 theres a fair bit of space... i guess it doesnt matter in my situation. just a good observation you found mate

As long as your powder charge covers the flash hole, you should be good to go.

Pistol cases are a bit different but some of the issues, especially with fast or very slow powders are similar.

When it comes to bottle neck rifle cartridges, less than a 90% fill can often effect accuracy. Straight wall cases not quite as fussy, but still need to have the flash hole covered.

I have a long time friend from 60 years back that has a lovely old Winchester 94, given to him by his grandfather. It's chambered for the 38-55 cartridge.

He doesn't want to handload for it so it doesn't get much use.

About a decade ago, we took the rifle to the range on a fun shoot. He had an old box of ammo, made by CIL. When we fired the rifle, TWICE, both cartridges hang fired.

When we got the rifle home, all of the mechanicals were functioning properly.

Then we pulled the bullets from the cases.

The cartridges had been stored on a shelf, under good conditions for well over ten years, that the owner could remember.

The powder had clumped under the bullet, leaving about 15% of the case empty at its base. No powder directly in contact with the flash hole. The powder didn't appear to be breaking down but we tossed it anyway.

We dumped the powder, replaced it with new powder and reinserted the bullets. We didn't replace the primers. Don't remember why not.

We took the rifle back to the range and everything functioned perfectly.

We did save one of the original cartridges. After it was tapped sharply against the wood topped shooting bench and loaded into the rifle, it fired without a hangfire.
 
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