That moron has an agenda.
If you read a few of his posts, you can tell he is rude,impolite and uneducated. Of course, he is a hypocrite.
Hunter killed by bear, WRITE a letter to change Wilderness ATC 'rules'..
- Thread starter Jay
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If you read a few of his posts, you can tell he is rude,impolite and uneducated. Of course, he is a hypocrite.
I wanted to take a minute to thank everyone that took the time to write a letter. Thank You.
For everyone else that takes issue with allowing folks to protect themselves with the necessary tools, I am surprised that you would deny your fellow law abiding gun owner the ability to protect themselves. It's disheartening actually & provides some insight into why the Shooting Sports are doomed. Essentially, I say this because folks don't stand up for each other. A large number of Shooting Sports enthusiasts would gladly throw legal handgun owners under the bus, just as guys with 'traditional' sporting guns would gladly throw black rifle owners under the bus, just as... You get the idea... Sad!
Those involved in the Shooting Sports would be wise to pay attention to what Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) said about the cowardice of German intellectuals following the Nazis' rise to power and the subsequent purging of their chosen targets, group after group.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Regards
Jay
For everyone else that takes issue with allowing folks to protect themselves with the necessary tools, I am surprised that you would deny your fellow law abiding gun owner the ability to protect themselves. It's disheartening actually & provides some insight into why the Shooting Sports are doomed. Essentially, I say this because folks don't stand up for each other. A large number of Shooting Sports enthusiasts would gladly throw legal handgun owners under the bus, just as guys with 'traditional' sporting guns would gladly throw black rifle owners under the bus, just as... You get the idea... Sad!
Those involved in the Shooting Sports would be wise to pay attention to what Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) said about the cowardice of German intellectuals following the Nazis' rise to power and the subsequent purging of their chosen targets, group after group.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Regards
Jay
Jay..that's a good summary of things.sadly...the feeling seems to be with them, "if I don't do it nobody else should be able to"
We see it here by those closet antigunners who have posted...they will go into the bush and be okay with someone carrying a 308 bolt action rifle, but would sh#* themselves if that same person had a 357 on their hip,,
So screwed up it's laughable, but mostly pathetic..
We see it here by those closet antigunners who have posted...they will go into the bush and be okay with someone carrying a 308 bolt action rifle, but would sh#* themselves if that same person had a 357 on their hip,,
So screwed up it's laughable, but mostly pathetic..
Tracks way to far to ever change his thinking....hopefully we don't see him here on CGN anymore...I doubt the community wants or needs a guy like this. At least he has be exposed for what he is and has people really thinking.
Lexthedestroyer
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Wow, what a read. Couple of points here: 1) when I leave my house in the morning, the chances of me getting into a car accident is pretty slim, I still wear my seatbelt... 2) clearly there's a "blood in the streets" mentality at play here. Really? A hunter angry because you interrupted his hunt is now going to shoot you if he has a handgun? Really showing your true colours here Track. More anti thinking that as soon as you put a handgun in someone's hands, they turn into a mindless murderer. And on that same track I take it you assume that if wilderness ATC was more easily accessible, people would be shooting every living thing in the woods right? Have you ever even seen a handgun in real life? 3) Talking about "traditional hunting arms", pistol hunting has a long history in other (read that "more free") parts of the world, and your bolt action hunting rifle is FAR from "traditional". The bolt-action rifle has been around for less than 200 years... Bah, gets me all riled up. Some people make me want to leave this planet.
I'm saddened to report that we have had another hunter killed by a bear. Here is that story; http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/north/topstories/bear-kills-hunter-near-norman-wells-n-w-t-1.2770789
WHEN will we have the right to protect ourselves? Please write a letter, please!
Regards
Jay
WHEN will we have the right to protect ourselves? Please write a letter, please!
Regards
Jay
Notice that neither person or bears are harmed. I wouldn't give a bear the same chance with a rifle in hand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jT9C9XRTK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jT9C9XRTK0
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NOTICE the guy had a LARGE REVOLVER in his hands!!! IMHO, that was not a situation that justified shooting. The bear closed the distance and STOPPED. He didn't charge. As far as I am concerned, your comment is misleading as I don't believe any ethical sportsman would shoot in that scenario regardless of them having a Rifle, Shotgun OR Handgun.
And, another guy was mauled recently. His hunting partner killed the bear & also accidently hit him. Anyone have the link to the story?
Regards
Jay
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/1...shot-by-hunting-partner-trying-to-rescue-him/
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A 56-year-old man is recovering in a Calgary hospital after getting mauled by a grizzly bear while hunting Sunday morning near the southern B.C. town of Fernie.
A spokesman for STARS air ambulance says a crew responded to an emergency call just before 9:30 a.m.
David Fairbanks says the man was not only attacked, but also shot by his hunting partner who was trying to neutralize the animal.
B.C.’s environment ministry says the hunting partner managed to kill the bear and was not injured in the incident.
Conservation officers and other first responders rushed to the scene. The victim was driven out of the forested area on an ATV, then flown by helicopter to a Calgary hospital.
The man was in stable condition when he was flown from the area and his injuries are described as non life-threatening.
Provincial conservation officers from Fernie and Cranbrook, B.C., are examining the scene.
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Grizzly encounters near Fernie are common, particularly in the nearby Flathead Valley, where there are more than 150 of the bears – one per 15 square kilometres – according to the city’s tourism website.
Sunday’s attack comes one year after a group of hunters in Fernie were attacked by a mother grizzly bear who became defensive of her cub. In that attack, the bear bore down on one hunter, pushing him about six meters down a steep trail near the peak of Proctor Mountain. The man used his bear spray and the grizzly retreated, but then went after the other hiker. One of the men pulled out a gun and shot the bear at close range. Both men in that case were treated and released.
More recently, Calgary hunter Rick Cross was killed last month by a grizzly bear in Kananaskis Country when he came upon a female with her cub. It was ruled a defensive attack because of the cub and a freshly killed deer carcass in the area.
In May, a 59-year-old Washington state hunter was shot and killed during a bear hunt in northern B.C.
U.S. resident Shirley Cooper told the Longview Daily News that her husband, Jeff Cooper, had been hunting a grizzly bear with two guides at the time of his death. He had wounded the bear, then tracked the bear down the next morning with help from the guides. It was then that the bear charged and everyone in the party fired their guns. A lone bullet struck Cooper.
Dave Tyreman, a spokesman for North District RCMP, said at the time that police were investigating the man’s death, which happened about 112 kilometres south of Houston.
Mounties could not immediately be reached for an update on that investigation.
With files from Postmedia News and The Associated Press
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A 56-year-old man is recovering in a Calgary hospital after getting mauled by a grizzly bear while hunting Sunday morning near the southern B.C. town of Fernie.
A spokesman for STARS air ambulance says a crew responded to an emergency call just before 9:30 a.m.
David Fairbanks says the man was not only attacked, but also shot by his hunting partner who was trying to neutralize the animal.
B.C.’s environment ministry says the hunting partner managed to kill the bear and was not injured in the incident.
Conservation officers and other first responders rushed to the scene. The victim was driven out of the forested area on an ATV, then flown by helicopter to a Calgary hospital.
The man was in stable condition when he was flown from the area and his injuries are described as non life-threatening.
Provincial conservation officers from Fernie and Cranbrook, B.C., are examining the scene.
Related
‘A double whammy': Missing Calgary hunter found dead after grizzly bear attack
Coworkers desperately tried to save Lorna Weafer from fatal black bear attack at Alberta
oilsands site
Grizzly encounters near Fernie are common, particularly in the nearby Flathead Valley, where there are more than 150 of the bears – one per 15 square kilometres – according to the city’s tourism website.
Sunday’s attack comes one year after a group of hunters in Fernie were attacked by a mother grizzly bear who became defensive of her cub. In that attack, the bear bore down on one hunter, pushing him about six meters down a steep trail near the peak of Proctor Mountain. The man used his bear spray and the grizzly retreated, but then went after the other hiker. One of the men pulled out a gun and shot the bear at close range. Both men in that case were treated and released.
More recently, Calgary hunter Rick Cross was killed last month by a grizzly bear in Kananaskis Country when he came upon a female with her cub. It was ruled a defensive attack because of the cub and a freshly killed deer carcass in the area.
In May, a 59-year-old Washington state hunter was shot and killed during a bear hunt in northern B.C.
U.S. resident Shirley Cooper told the Longview Daily News that her husband, Jeff Cooper, had been hunting a grizzly bear with two guides at the time of his death. He had wounded the bear, then tracked the bear down the next morning with help from the guides. It was then that the bear charged and everyone in the party fired their guns. A lone bullet struck Cooper.
Dave Tyreman, a spokesman for North District RCMP, said at the time that police were investigating the man’s death, which happened about 112 kilometres south of Houston.
Mounties could not immediately be reached for an update on that investigation.
With files from Postmedia News and The Associated Press
I literally had my sister tell me that once I got handguns I would be more likely to shoot someone . I reminded her of the magnums (NR) sitting in my safe and said what about those? She said they were 'different'. She got to walk home.
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Hunters and backwoods users need to realize that the behaviour of "protected by law bears" are changing....They are becoming less fearful of humans! The fact that hunters in Canada can't carry handguns for personal protection really doesn't add up in my way of thinking but then again I don't live in a city where the norm seems to be Call 911 if you see someone putting a gun into their vehicle just in case they may be up to evil!!!
hmmmm
Not sure how to question your statement without sounding condescending. But I'm curious. Do tell.
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
So how do the bears know they are protected by law versus otherwise? Do they hold union meetings??
You sound like a bad ending of a far side cartoon.
