I was refering to the gray/ white color comment not the shape of the dog. I fixed the post sorry.
My opinion possibly one of these
http://sciencetrio.wordpress.com/2010/01/05/coywolf-encounter-in-connecticut/
Hunter Kills 104-Pound 'Unusually Large' Coyote
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I was refering to the gray/ white color comment not the shape of the dog. I fixed the post sorry.
My opinion possibly one of these
http://sciencetrio.wordpress.com/2010/01/05/coywolf-encounter-in-connecticut/
DNA testing is a fair bit more complicated than that. If they can determine if your kids are really yours, they can tell the difference between a wolf and a coyote...
The test may be botched, but a well-peformed DNA test with a good sample is definitive.
tactical870
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Wolf.... Coyote..... Just another furry target.... 
The white around the mouth makes me think wolf, but then, if in fact the dna test was done properly, It could very possibly be a cross between a Malamute and a coyote giving it the size and colouration we see in the photo.
Just a thought....
Just a thought....
The testing you describe can determine if two people are related. Ask a lab tech if you could tell the difference between a caucasian and an asian person through DNA. Ask him if he could tell the difference between a caucasian man with one great grandparent who's native american and two.
CreamySmooth
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How many years did it take to get Milgard out of jail?
Obviously, just like with this coyote..... Someone's reading it so they get the answer they want..... Sigh....
Looks like a lot of saskie yokes I shot. Lots of grey coyotes were targets of mine, this one just looks bigger.
Before DNA came about, a biologist could look at the skull and find out by the wolf having more of a forehead, and also a larger skull, than a coyote.
With all these screwed up coydogs, coyote\wolf breeds possibly mixed with dogs becoming more prevalent, it would seem difficult to charge someone for shooting it in a no wolf zone.
They must have done some kind of testing because any hillbilly redneck could say it is a wolf just by weight alone! and charge the guy without scientific evidence.
Weve seen a body size increase in the coyote population around here, and the deer numbers have sharply declined... wonder why?...
Thankfully coyote is not protected here!...
With all these screwed up coydogs, coyote\wolf breeds possibly mixed with dogs becoming more prevalent, it would seem difficult to charge someone for shooting it in a no wolf zone.
They must have done some kind of testing because any hillbilly redneck could say it is a wolf just by weight alone! and charge the guy without scientific evidence.
Weve seen a body size increase in the coyote population around here, and the deer numbers have sharply declined... wonder why?...
Thankfully coyote is not protected here!...
Wolf.... Coyote..... Just another furry target....
Agreed! Shoot first, ask questions later. They all kill fawns.
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this one was 100% WOLF. I shot it last year in SK. It also weighed 100 lb.
Color aside, the larger, heavier shape of a wolf's head and the proportions of the limbs/tail are clear indications of species. I cannot believe that the DNA test referred to in the news story was accurate. Something "fishy" with that story. Given the legal wrangling between wolf lovers and wolf haters in the USA, I would not be surprised if the results of the DNA test were "adjusted" to match someone's preferred result.
Color aside, the larger, heavier shape of a wolf's head and the proportions of the limbs/tail are clear indications of species. I cannot believe that the DNA test referred to in the news story was accurate. Something "fishy" with that story. Given the legal wrangling between wolf lovers and wolf haters in the USA, I would not be surprised if the results of the DNA test were "adjusted" to match someone's preferred result.
It's actually all possible. They can tell you how many native grandparents, what tribe, and if you throw the lab techs a curve ball by making them analyze someone who's inbread, they will find out about that too. That is possible through comparison with reasearch that has already been done on practicly every people on earth.
And most important animals and plants have had their genome sequenced, especially domestic ones.
There are people who study the paths of migration of early humans, or animals or even plants through today's DNA. It's called archaeogenetics.
It's all a matter of finding the right DNA markers. It takes time and budget, but anything is possible.
tactical lever
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Post by Sardaukar:That is possible through comparison with reasearch that has already been done on practicly every people on earth. (unquote)
Eek! I knew I was probed!!
I'm not so sure that they would go to so much trouble to id what could be a cross breed. Too much genetic overlap. By the end of some scientists life maybe they could denfinetively pigeon hole it, but then they would have to define the DNA of both coyote and wolf.
My cousin has a pure bred lab, which is the most muscular dog I've ever seen in the flesh, just a freak. You would swear that it's some sort of mastiff/pit cross. Maybe a recessive gene, or a husky got in the mix.
Eek! I knew I was probed!!
I'm not so sure that they would go to so much trouble to id what could be a cross breed. Too much genetic overlap. By the end of some scientists life maybe they could denfinetively pigeon hole it, but then they would have to define the DNA of both coyote and wolf.
My cousin has a pure bred lab, which is the most muscular dog I've ever seen in the flesh, just a freak. You would swear that it's some sort of mastiff/pit cross. Maybe a recessive gene, or a husky got in the mix.
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jaydog, I do understand the difference between phenotype and genotype (I have a University degree in animal science). You could be correct and it is simply a wolfy looking coyote. However, I don't think there needs to be a "huge conspiracy" to change a lab result - just a couple of politically expedient decisions made, at a local level, and that's it.
It's quite easy to tell a wolf from a coyote....A wolf will always be see following a little girl with a basket and wearing a red hood...another tell tale sign...wolfs will try to huff and puff and blow down the little pigs dwellings. When I go wolf hunting I put on my red hooked out fit....It rarely works for yotes...
HunterDave
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Coy-dog Hybrid.
You could be very right- especially after the lynx DNA fiasco that went on when they were trying to list that species. That said, I can't come up with a plausable reason why they would want to hide a dead wolf though. The DNR in Missouri admits that wolves enter their state on occasion (and have been shot elsewhere in the state).
Going just by looks, I think its legs are a bit short for a wolf.... but thats just me.
There is a chance that is exactly what happened. They managed to hush the anti's, now they have to work on hunting's worst threat, hunters.
Could have been a problematic animal and they were happy to see it go, a quick cover-up silenced the general public, but it seems the hunters don't want to let it go.
