Hunter orange
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if where i hunt gets that busy i will stay home, when i see a hunter in the woods where i hunt, i will change location, i am sure as ---- not staying in rifle range of someone i dont know, and definitely not when they wear bright colours, , wade
For gods sake - i think you guys would argue whether or not 'heads' was on the left or right side of a coin.
Isn't it obvious? Only a westernor would struggle with that question.
I think people are relatively smart. I think if you use your brains, you can figure out what's appropriate to the area and method of hunting that involves you. I think some will find orange valuable, some will not.
I really think that's about as far as you can practically take it
I really think that's about as far as you can practically take it
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So you need bino's to pick out a antler or movement in the brush, do you need them to identify what your going to shoot at?? Remind me not to hunt with you!! I'm quite happy to sit & wait for that antler or movment or whatever it is to be completely visible before I even think about lifting my gun, I don't need to check out an antler?? It's either going to become a visible game animal or not!
If you need bino's at 75' to identify your target before shooting perhaps a little patience is in order.
"WALKSALOT" replies;
If I see movement in the bush I never put my rifle up first. The binoculars go up first to identify what made the movement. To use ones scope to identify movement is not a good practice at all.
The majority of the time I see the animal before it sees me. As I purposefully wander through the woods I stop and use the binoculars to scan the surrounding area looking for not necessarily the whole animal but a piece of an animal, an ear or an antler. Once the animal is located then it's a waiting game until the animal presents a quality shot. It's called stalking skills.
Back to the original theme of the tread, the use of red. In my opinion, the hunter who is accidentally shot is the result of a hunter who is so pumped about shooting an animal that, in his/her mind, at that point in time they really believe they are looking at an animal. They are oblivious to color or form. It is a state of mind which can have tragic consequences. I have hammered this message into my son's head. IF YOU SEE OR HEAR MOVEMENT IN THE BUSH UNTIL YOU CAN POSITIVELY IDENTIFY IT IS AN ANIMAL YOU ALWAYS SUSPECT IT IS ANOTHER HUNTER.
Exactly Walksalot......check it out first to see what it is. perhaps another hunter? Take a look. Might save your life. Especially if HE isn't carrying binoculars.
Where I guide, you cant see much past 50 yds. Our last three moose, all over 55", have been shot at less than 27yds.....kinda nice to know what it is before you get stomped into a mudhole. I check out movements in the bush all the time with my binocs. Sometimes Im only looking 35yds away, but i want that advantage of getting a real good look. Might be a griz.
My buddy was shot off his horse years ago by a "hunter" he was guiding.(Posted last year) I don't trust many guys out there really. As a matter of fact, I believe that many of these "buddy" shootings are murder. But then, that's my opinion.
Originally Posted by senior
So you need bino's to pick out a antler or movement in the brush, do you need them to identify what your going to shoot at?? Remind me not to hunt with you!! I'm quite happy to sit & wait for that antler or movment or whatever it is to be completely visible before I even think about lifting my gun, I don't need to check out an antler?? It's either going to become a visible game animal or not!
If you need bino's at 75' to identify your target before shooting perhaps a little patience is in order.
"WALKSALOT" replies;
If I see movement in the bush I never put my rifle up first. The binoculars go up first to identify what made the movement. To use ones scope to identify movement is not a good practice at all.
The majority of the time I see the animal before it sees me. As I purposefully wander through the woods I stop and use the binoculars to scan the surrounding area looking for not necessarily the whole animal but a piece of an animal, an ear or an antler. Once the animal is located then it's a waiting game until the animal presents a quality shot. It's called stalking skills.
Back to the original theme of the tread, the use of red. In my opinion, the hunter who is accidentally shot is the result of a hunter who is so pumped about shooting an animal that, in his/her mind, at that point in time they really believe they are looking at an animal. They are oblivious to color or form. It is a state of mind which can have tragic consequences. I have hammered this message into my son's head. IF YOU SEE OR HEAR MOVEMENT IN THE BUSH UNTIL YOU CAN POSITIVELY IDENTIFY IT IS AN ANIMAL YOU ALWAYS SUSPECT IT IS ANOTHER HUNTER.
Exactly Walksalot......check it out first to see what it is. perhaps another hunter? Take a look. Might save your life. Especially if HE isn't carrying binoculars.
Where I guide, you cant see much past 50 yds. Our last three moose, all over 55", have been shot at less than 27yds.....kinda nice to know what it is before you get stomped into a mudhole. I check out movements in the bush all the time with my binocs. Sometimes Im only looking 35yds away, but i want that advantage of getting a real good look. Might be a griz.
My buddy was shot off his horse years ago by a "hunter" he was guiding.(Posted last year) I don't trust many guys out there really. As a matter of fact, I believe that many of these "buddy" shootings are murder. But then, that's my opinion.
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I live in "orange optional" BC.
I think wearing orange is smart, and I pretty much always have at least an orange toque/ball cap on while hunting. The three other guys I hunt with don't...at dusk they can always see me, me seeing them...not so easy.
But that's just me, I don't think it should be mandatory or anything, if guys think that it's a disadvantage or a danger I have no problem with the full camo guys either.
I just think that hi visability clothing has its place...when I run near dusk, I try and wear bright or reflective clothing. When I ride my motorcycle I am happy about the reflective stripe on my jacket. And when I hunt, it's the orange hat.
I think wearing orange is smart, and I pretty much always have at least an orange toque/ball cap on while hunting. The three other guys I hunt with don't...at dusk they can always see me, me seeing them...not so easy.
But that's just me, I don't think it should be mandatory or anything, if guys think that it's a disadvantage or a danger I have no problem with the full camo guys either.
I just think that hi visability clothing has its place...when I run near dusk, I try and wear bright or reflective clothing. When I ride my motorcycle I am happy about the reflective stripe on my jacket. And when I hunt, it's the orange hat.
I wish I could find the stats again, but I'm sure the accidents dropped in Alberta when they rescinded the blaze orange requirement. Can't remember any details, but either way, it would have been a pretty small sample to make definitive statements regarding the safety of either system.
I usually carry a blaze orange hat or sweater, and put it on occasionally, but I would resist a law which told me I had to.
I usually carry a blaze orange hat or sweater, and put it on occasionally, but I would resist a law which told me I had to.
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Exactly Walksalot......check it out first to see what it is. perhaps another hunter? Take a look. Might save your life. Especially if HE isn't carrying binoculars.
Then wouldn't it be easier for him to diferentiate you from a moose if your wearing orange
I don't trust many guys out there really. [/QUOTE]
I believe that's what I said way back!!
I trust myself in the bush it's the other guy you may not trust so much!!
Again wouldn't orange make you feel slightly more comfortable about what the other guy is shooting at??
Exactly Walksalot......check it out first to see what it is. perhaps another hunter? Take a look. Might save your life. Especially if HE isn't carrying binoculars.
Then wouldn't it be easier for him to diferentiate you from a moose if your wearing orange
I don't trust many guys out there really. [/QUOTE]
I believe that's what I said way back!!
I trust myself in the bush it's the other guy you may not trust so much!!
Again wouldn't orange make you feel slightly more comfortable about what the other guy is shooting at??
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Exactly Walksalot......check it out first to see what it is. perhaps another hunter? Take a look. Might save your life. Especially if HE isn't carrying binoculars.
Then wouldn't it be easier for him to diferentiate you from a moose if your wearing orange
I don't trust many guys out there really.
I believe that's what I said way back!!
I trust myself in the bush it's the other guy you may not trust so much!!
Again wouldn't orange make you feel slightly more comfortable about what the other guy is shooting at??[/quote][/quote]
Thing is, if the hunter takes a good look at you thru binocs, chances are much better he will ID you no matter what you are wearing. And he might be in better position to check what is beyond the target too.
I totally agree with you as far as not trusting other hunters. You couldn't be more correct. No different than trusting other drivers. Control what you can.
As for your last sentence, I go back to my opinion on whether these things are accidents or murder. I think some guys have gotten away with murder.
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Exactly Walksalot......check it out first to see what it is. perhaps another hunter? Take a look. Might save your life. Especially if HE isn't carrying binoculars.
Then wouldn't it be easier for him to diferentiate you from a moose if your wearing orange
I don't trust many guys out there really.
Thing is, if the hunter takes a good look at you thru binocs, chances are much better he will ID you no matter what you are wearing. And he might be in better position to check what is beyond the target too.
I totally agree with you as far as not trusting other hunters. You couldn't be more correct. No different than trusting other drivers. Control what you can.
As for your last sentence, I go back to my opinion on whether these things are accidents or murder. I think some guys have gotten away with murder.
I wonder how many hunters are color blind?
I was wearing a red jacket and hat and had a hunter scope me, it's not a nice feeling. I was quite young at the time this happened and was so scared I didn't know what to do, I thought the hunter was going to shoot me. If it happened today I would be tempted to wrap the hunter's rifle around a tree.
I was wearing a red jacket and hat and had a hunter scope me, it's not a nice feeling. I was quite young at the time this happened and was so scared I didn't know what to do, I thought the hunter was going to shoot me. If it happened today I would be tempted to wrap the hunter's rifle around a tree.
I know the number of males that are color blind is very high!
Probably in the 60-80% range depending on age.
I have been for many years. I cannot see a deer unless it moves! I have on many occasions walked right up to with-in 100 ft or less of one standing & couldn't see it against the background till it exploded running!
Huntingstuff, I personally think the number of accidents that are murder is very low. I believe what causes accidents in a lot of cases is the same excitment that causes "buck fever".
Probably in the 60-80% range depending on age.
I have been for many years. I cannot see a deer unless it moves! I have on many occasions walked right up to with-in 100 ft or less of one standing & couldn't see it against the background till it exploded running!
Huntingstuff, I personally think the number of accidents that are murder is very low. I believe what causes accidents in a lot of cases is the same excitment that causes "buck fever".
This is a very good point. It is a known fact that the human eye doesn't see color in low light conditions. Everything just becomes shades of gray. Something to think about when moving around in low light conditions.
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Being a migrant from blaze orange Ont. to BC, I jumped at the chance to hunt in full Camo the first chance I got. That said I did alot of solo hunts at the time. Didn't really bother me, my wife and extended family(hardcore hunters from ON) thought I was crazy. Never felt uncomfortable or unsafe in the bush until I went on my first big group hunt last fall. We finally had enough guys to do a make shift bush push, one of which was a novice hunter. As I exited the bush at the edge of the clearing I never longed for a orange cover-all so bad,I actually began yelling to him about 20yards from inside the bush so he would know it was me.
I like your thought on buck fever. You are right on there. Guys that don't have the patience to wait and be sure of their target. I appreciate the fact you would wait to be sure, I was just thinking that the binocs might make that process a bit faster, just in case.
I don't know much about color blindness tho. Does it get worse or start when you get older?
