Hunters: To protect our social licence, we have to stop killing animals we don’t eat
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Hunting for meat isn't going to fly, either. If all you want is meat, you can just buy it from the supermarket for less time and money. Almost nobody in this day and age truly "needs" to hunt for subsistence. It shouldn't matter why anybody chooses to hunt, only that animals are harvested in sustainable numbers.
Both hunters and non-hunters alike would do well to read Meditations on Hunting by Jose Ortega y Gasset if they want to understand hunting.
Both hunters and non-hunters alike would do well to read Meditations on Hunting by Jose Ortega y Gasset if they want to understand hunting.
This ^, exactly. If there is one thing more disturbing than the mis-use of the term "trophy hunting" by non-hunters or anti-hunters...it is the equally common mis-use of that term by hunters.
There are also many hunters who do realize that a trophy hunter utilizes the meat as well as the trophy...and yet they feel that they themselves, by shooting the first legal animal that they see, are somehow morally superior to the trophy hunter, who passes on animal after animal, and may very well never actually shoot any of them while searching for "the one".
Like I said, you have to them credit. They have people that certainly aren't stupid.
Well said. I do believe it’s the beginning of the end of this way of life. It’s just a matter of time before there is no hunting or fishing allowed and not based solely on science.
What if I want my meat to be 100% organic? No farm raised, factory processed meat for me if I can avoid it.
The dimwit "hunter" who wrote this article is doing us all a disservice!!
He has lumped me (and many others) in to this category of "deplorables" because I hunt black bear.
Guess what? BC mountain black bear meat is the mildest, least "gamey" meat you can find in the woods. It is ####ing delicious.
Yes, you have to fully cook it due to the danger of specific parasites (particularly trichinella), but the same could be said for pork up until about a decade ago (at which point it became legal to serve pork medium in restaurants).
Having said that, I also agree with those of you who are saying that we need to STOP posting all this stuff on social media. Not because we should "hide", but because posting any kind of personal #### on social media is of NO ####ING USE, except to get attention. In this case, the wrong kind of attention.
He has lumped me (and many others) in to this category of "deplorables" because I hunt black bear.
Guess what? BC mountain black bear meat is the mildest, least "gamey" meat you can find in the woods. It is ####ing delicious.
Yes, you have to fully cook it due to the danger of specific parasites (particularly trichinella), but the same could be said for pork up until about a decade ago (at which point it became legal to serve pork medium in restaurants).
Having said that, I also agree with those of you who are saying that we need to STOP posting all this stuff on social media. Not because we should "hide", but because posting any kind of personal #### on social media is of NO ####ING USE, except to get attention. In this case, the wrong kind of attention.
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I could easily make the case that I do not support the ethics and practices of the meat industry, so I refuse to buy meat at the grocery store. However, I make the personal choice to eat meat because humans are omnivorous by nature and they benefit greatly by the consumption of meat as a part of their balanced diet.
So I am a hunter for many of the same reasons that some people are vegans or vegetarians. Unlike them, I simply choose to continue to eat meat, but take personal responsibility for the necessary deaths.
Anyone who goes to the store and buys meat is supporting the methodical mistreatment and mass killing of animals.
We are talking about FAR MORE SUFFERING than that which is caused by hunting!
Meat-eating anti-hunters are the biggest ####ing hypocrites on planet earth, and they should therefore get NO SAY WHATSOEVER when it comes to hunting regulations.
By the way, the meat I hunt costs far less than supermarket meat. This idea that hunting meat is more expensive is entirely relative. It can be done for next to nothing if you live close to the woods and you don't get caught up in the BS hunting "industry".
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My mom was not a fan of me hunting. I showed her the video of how cows are slaughtered for her grocery store “hunt”. She doesn’t bug me anymore.
It also appeared for a while that the feminazis and social justice warriors were going to brow-beat (and legislate) every last ounce of masculinity out of the modern world.
But then along came Jordan Peterson - and we can see the tables are starting to turn already.
All we need is brave, effective spokespeople to stand up and say "ENOUGH!"
(if you don't know who Jordan Peterson is... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54 - after this video, she claimed victim status because there are an onslaught of people telling her she's a ####ing idiot)
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Yes. This can be very effective.
I cheer every time PETA releases a new video of live chickens getting pulled apart by the hands of low-IQ sadists (for example). More "shock and awe" to throw at people who think I am a terrible person for hunting.
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Your're funny. Guaranteed that wild animals are not being injected with growth hormones, antibiotics and eating GMO feed while being corralled or caged.
GMO feed still grows in fields, and is accessible to and eaten by deer and other animals. Unless you are hunting caribou on the tundra, or other animals far removed from agricultural land, the truth is that you simply don't know what they are eating. In fact, it's almost a sure thing that farm-land animals have been exposed to insecticides, herbicides, pesticides, fertilizers and plenty of other mystery chemicals before you kill...er, sorry, "harvest"...them.
Where I hunt it is remote and I don't mince words to spare people feelings. I eat what I KILL. In other words, if I kill it, I eat it. I don't use the word "harvest" to describe killing an animal.
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Kudos for that.
You're lucky to hunt in remote areas like that. When I get a chance to do so, I feel the same way you do, i.e. that the meat is as natural as it can be. Unfortunately, living in agricultural land as I do, my typical back-forty close-to-home hunt always has me wondering what those deer have been eating. Seeing a tractor spraying some mystery crap over a field makes it even worse.
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What he says....
I used to work at a golf course, which like most golf courses is loaded with pesticides, fungicides and fertilizer. There were two ponds in the middle of it, and we had at least 100 geese or so that would spend their summers on the golf course. If often wondered about some poor water fowler bagging some of these geese.
