I don't believe I stated that any one of the economy manufacturers are better than a Kimber. I just don't believe that a Kimber is that much more superior for the average hunter than any one of the afore mentioned economy rifles. He did say that he was just getting into hunting. I believe that would put him into the category of average hunter( ie. a hunter that gets out 3 to 5 times a season). Excuse me if I have a distaste for individuals who have the ability to throw cash around like its nothing. Do of us actually have yo earn our living. I can see I have ruffled a few feathers, oops! To each his own, I suppose. If one can afford to spend the money on high end firearms, more power to them! Heh! Here's a thought maybe, just maybe I'm a wee bit jealous!
hunting calibers
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I don't believe I stated that any one of the economy manufacturers are better than a Kimber. I just don't believe that a Kimber is that much more superior for the average hunter than any one of the afore mentioned economy rifles. He did say that he was just getting into hunting. I believe that would put him into the category of average hunter( ie. a hunter that gets out 3 to 5 times a season). Excuse me if I have a distaste for individuals who have the ability to throw cash around like its nothing. Do of us actually have yo earn our living. I can see I have ruffled a few feathers, oops! To each his own, I suppose. If one can afford to spend the money on high end firearms, more power to them! Heh! Here's a thought maybe, just maybe I'm a wee bit jealous!
There is a very very good chance I make far less per year than you do. Either way it doesn't matter, I just choose to save my $$ and buy one or two quality rifles, instead of a closet full of crap I wouldn't trust to save my bacon in a tight spot.
However you are right, I value fit, finish, and attention to detail over DBM's that jam up, bolts that stick, and safeties that are at best pull increasers.
However you are right, I value fit, finish, and attention to detail over DBM's that jam up, bolts that stick, and safeties that are at best pull increasers.
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- Dah Soo,ON
So when I work 7, 12 hour shifts a week for weeks straight (no days off), pulling 3 tons chain falls, letting 1" drive impact guns slowly destroy my hands, wail a 12 pound sledge hammer around, etc...that I'm not "earning my f**cking living"??
I dont make TONS of money either, and some things in my life I cheap out on, some I dont.
I drive a 1000$ truck, with a Kimber or two in it, a couple St. Croix fishing rods, breathable waders, etc. Its not like I'm loaded...but I do earn my living. Thank you.
Okay, alright jokes over fellas. I apologize, I did mean to ruffle a few feathers , but I don't want to upset people the way that I have . Truth be told, I had a few drinks this evening and figured I'd are what trouble I could stir on here. I was definitely in the wrong! Alcohol and the Internet do not mix!!! Once again I apologize, and I am an A**hole! Seriously though, I didn't mean to offend anyone!
Deer: 7x57 or 6.5x55
Elk & Moose: .338 WM or 9.3x62 I like the new Win 70 Alaskan, but don't have any experience with it.
Feathers: anything 12 gauge, 2 3/4" will kill most, don't need 3 1/2"
I like SxS, but O/U or whatever turns your crank, they all work.
If you still feel the gun-buying itch, get a .223 or .22/250 for coyotes.
Elk & Moose: .338 WM or 9.3x62 I like the new Win 70 Alaskan, but don't have any experience with it.
Feathers: anything 12 gauge, 2 3/4" will kill most, don't need 3 1/2"
I like SxS, but O/U or whatever turns your crank, they all work.
If you still feel the gun-buying itch, get a .223 or .22/250 for coyotes.
ASs for an over/under shotgun get a Browning Cynergy, I have had one for 4 yrs now and love it. Also get a 12 ga and don't even think about a 20. For grouse use those cheap target loads and then for waterfowl or pheasants upgrade to the heavy stuff.
For a rifle get a Win Model 70 in .270 and one in 300 WSM and you got it made. If you like Jack O'Connor, Winchester made a commemorative 270 featherweight the same as Jack used to use and you may be able to find one in Canada I'm not sure.
For a rifle get a Win Model 70 in .270 and one in 300 WSM and you got it made. If you like Jack O'Connor, Winchester made a commemorative 270 featherweight the same as Jack used to use and you may be able to find one in Canada I'm not sure.
I would buy a quality rifle for satisfaction, not prestige. After owning a bunch of plastic fantastic, poorly fitted junk with poor triggers you come to appreciate a rifle with no niggles done right.
Well said. The OP said quality over quantity. To me the obvious answer is to have a high quality .308 or 30.06 for moose, elk, deer and more. If you just have to fill up your safe then get a .243 or .223 and a 30.06. Good for varmit and big game. Top em with nice scopes like Zeiss or a good Leupold. Get a good 12 gauge for birds and you're done.
So you want a "slew" of guns?
Here are a few I'd consider: for deer, bear, etc. close in, an original Winchester 1886 in 45-70. For 'yotes, deer, black bear, and moose at moderate ranges, the TC Dimension line looks nice, so I'd get one in 308, 243 and 223. Then for the bigger critters, I'd get a 338 WM in a Savage with a wooden stock. That would take care of just about anything on 4 legs in North America. For shotties, I'd get a 10 ga. Semi, for wet birds, a 20 ga. Browning or Ruger for upland birds, and a good semi turkey gun, probably a Browning. Then, just to round things off, I'd get me a Savage 12 ga. bolt slug gun. I think that would be a hell of a start to a hunting collection.
Here are a few I'd consider: for deer, bear, etc. close in, an original Winchester 1886 in 45-70. For 'yotes, deer, black bear, and moose at moderate ranges, the TC Dimension line looks nice, so I'd get one in 308, 243 and 223. Then for the bigger critters, I'd get a 338 WM in a Savage with a wooden stock. That would take care of just about anything on 4 legs in North America. For shotties, I'd get a 10 ga. Semi, for wet birds, a 20 ga. Browning or Ruger for upland birds, and a good semi turkey gun, probably a Browning. Then, just to round things off, I'd get me a Savage 12 ga. bolt slug gun. I think that would be a hell of a start to a hunting collection.
Applefarmer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Lime Stone City
STEYR SSG 69 PI (308), a Swiss Arms Black or Green Special, Ruger 10/22
You consider an Axis high end?
I would start out with a quality 22lr, likely a CZ, a good 12 gauge semi auto such as a Maxus or SX3, and a quality rifle(Tikka/Sako/Winchester etc) in a caliber from .264" to .284", likely a 260,6.5x55,7mm-08, or 280rem cartridge. Then over time, I would add a nice 20gauge O/U, and a varmint cartridge like a 223 to fill in the gaps.
My take on this;
22 or 22 mag...........New Browning T bolt in wood....This is a man's 22 and are extremely well made and mine at least is very accurate.
22-250..........700 CDL or varmint heavy bbl.........shoots 1/2" with good loads and looks good in wood or laminated wood.
257 Wby........700 CDL SF or Mark V Wby......beautiful calibre and mine shoots 110 Accubonds into 3/4"
300 Mag (which ever variation strikes your fancy)........Win Mod 70 Supergrade or 700 CDL......very well made and accurate.
.375 H+H (if you feel a need to go bigger than a 300) in a CZ, Win Express, used 700 in wood, old Browning Safari or old Sako, AV or earlier.
If real big is wanted consider a double in .470 NE in either a Merkel or Heym, both excellent rifles and still affordable.
I'm not much of a shotgunner but I do prefer a quality SXS or secondly an O/U for all my shotgunning needs.
This will cover every hunting need worldwide, period.
PS; the 22-250 could be swapped out for a 243 which is my favorite light CF of all time.
22 or 22 mag...........New Browning T bolt in wood....This is a man's 22 and are extremely well made and mine at least is very accurate.
22-250..........700 CDL or varmint heavy bbl.........shoots 1/2" with good loads and looks good in wood or laminated wood.
257 Wby........700 CDL SF or Mark V Wby......beautiful calibre and mine shoots 110 Accubonds into 3/4"
300 Mag (which ever variation strikes your fancy)........Win Mod 70 Supergrade or 700 CDL......very well made and accurate.
.375 H+H (if you feel a need to go bigger than a 300) in a CZ, Win Express, used 700 in wood, old Browning Safari or old Sako, AV or earlier.
If real big is wanted consider a double in .470 NE in either a Merkel or Heym, both excellent rifles and still affordable.
I'm not much of a shotgunner but I do prefer a quality SXS or secondly an O/U for all my shotgunning needs.
This will cover every hunting need worldwide, period.
PS; the 22-250 could be swapped out for a 243 which is my favorite light CF of all time.
tylerjwitty
CGN frequent flyer
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- Northern Ontario
are you crazy? nuts? what? If he's got doe, then point him in the right direction, buy the best of everything there is!
look cooler, feel cooler, be cooler, whats wrong with being the coolest dude in town?
