Hunting dogs........?

Oh Jay....I know your pain...both with the porcupine pic and your loss. The wired ones seem to HATE those porkys.

I know we all have our personal biases about dogs and we all love our own breed choice, but if are looking for a true “Swiss army knife” dog, the drahthaars are way out front. This mainly due to the breeding and testing program. The Germans maintain absolute control over what dogs breed and it is very strict. Only dogs with proven (through actual judged testing) are allowed to breed.
 
Ignore?? ........ Why? If I have offended, I would be more than happy to make sorry. PM me (if you want) and we can make this right.

No, you're not on ignore! It was a joke related to some banter in the past - I guess only I thought it was funny. Sorry. Should have added a smiley face emoticon.

Anyway, why no more labs? Or did you mean no more pudelpointers?
 
Anyway, why no more labs? Or did you mean no more pudelpointers?

We had a lab prior to the PP who owns me now. She was a fine dog, and great to hunt with but as soon as we had her spade, she got really heavy. No amount of walking, measured special food, trips to the vet for testing would get that weight off. She soon became useless for hunting and in the end had to be put down for mobility problems. And then there was shedding.

I am out with the PP every day for at least 3kms off leash, lots of days 5 or more depending on weather or work. It was the same with the lab to no avail to get that weight off. I have noticed that there are a lot of heavy labs out there and the owners all seem to be in the same boat as I was. No way can they get the weight off.

The PP OTOH is the same lean weight he has always been, lot of energy, very good mobility and does not shed. The only problem with him is that he has not been altered and will fight with other males on a random basis. He hates all shepherds and huskies which is really weird as he has been very well socialized on a daily basis under positive circumstances.


Lets go, he says. :)

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So true that pudelpointers own their human! And hunting dogs need lots of run time.
Here's Dagmar after saying hello to a porcupine. "I don't get it. All I said was hello".
Have a great moose hunt, Cubby!
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Yes, came from Mike. She's two years old now. Wants to hunt all the time. Has a memory like an elephant for instance every location of every rabbit she has ever seen. Approaches those places stealthily and scopes them out carefully. I'm pretty sure she is done with porcupine encounters. A couple weeks later we ran into a couple raccoons snapping and growling at her - she didn't get within 10 feet of them, just skirted around. Pretty non-confrontational after the porcupine incident. But she'll run down and catch a rabbit and shake it and throw in the air like an orca with a baby seal. I would say so far she's not shown as exceptional a nose as my previous dog, a GSP. Better swimmer though and just as keen to hunt. Learning to work the wind and understanding cover to investigate for scent is coming along for her now.
 
Has a memory like an elephant for instance every location of every rabbit she has ever seen. Approaches those places stealthily and scopes them out carefully.
That's funny about the memory. My guy remembers people who gave him treats 6 month later. The other night while out he ran up to a fellow in the pitch dark that I couldn't see looking for treats. He hadn't seen that guy in 2 months.

I would say so far she's not shown as exceptional a nose as my previous dog, a GSP.
I don't find mine as birdy as I would like. He will work them but does not fixate as much as I would like.


Learning to work the wind and understanding cover to investigate for scent is coming along for her now.
The grouse down here in the south of NB don't hold well or at all sometimes. Hard to point a bird like that. He does much better on woodcock for pointing.
 
A hunting pard has a Drahthaar. Pretty good dog but what makes it a good dog is the amount of use it gets. Chucker hunting ptarmigan up north pheasant trips in the states Ruff grouse hunting, dog has lots of experience at 4 years old. The versatile breeds have their place no doubt usually second place “smiley face”



Any ways here she is hunting chucker ptarmigan and rooting out some fox’s...
 
Looks like a great dog with a lot of heart. Why the dig at versatile breeds?

I grew up at home with a lot of German shorthairs or at least what I thought was lots. After getting set up married houses land all that life stuff time to buy some dogs. Myself just like my dad I rush out and get a Shorthair. Oh, life is grand and a couple good bounces in life with hard work, as it turns out a fella can hunt lots. I am not just hunting on Saturdays any more with dads mostly retired friends the hunts are getting bigger longer maybe a week or more at a time, friends start picking up the sport as well with their versatile dogs…

Some pretty darn good dogs with lots of good hunts but then we start to running into other problems we are out hunting the dogs a dog can’t tell you how much it is hurting but you can see it so we start cycling dogs in and out, that will work sure but then we ask ourselves what are we really hunting here? Ducks, geese the neighbour lady’s beaver? Well no, upland game pretty much exclusively pheasants are another story I almost most dread running into them at times.

A person really has to ask them self’s what sort of person are they and then match themselves with certain breed traits and the game they will be hunting. Does the perspective buyer call people names do they have little to no patience is a dog being out of gun range the end of the world are they old with health problems is the misses hi strung will the dog have to live inside?

There are of course expectations to every rule but for the most part on upland game but not pheasants from what I have seen Pointers and setters rule the field. When I see a half dozen pointers and setters ripping up the parries all on the ground at once not much is more enjoyable others would see mayhem.


Lots of hunting makes for good hunting dogs of any breed,

Heart and them some with the Drahtaar she did this a few days ago never new until after the hunt.



 
Well, thanks for elaborating.
Growing up my dad had hounds to run deer. Blueticks, bloodhounds, redbones, black and tans, but mostly we had walkers. And the walkers were the smartest of the lot and quickly learned more about deer hunting than any of the human hunters in the camp. As you say, figure out what you aim to hunt then find the right breed for the application. For my upland situation probably the most effective companion would be a close-working flusher but I just love shooting over a pointer. Like fly fishing versus casting rapalas.
 
I think he has one coming.
Italian Pointer.
I can'ear it now.
Sintah jew
Vennie
Currie
Bastardo....................:cool:

I'll up date with photos when I get sum.
 
Jeesh Frankie, that's a great shot for a Bateman painting.
Fabulous photo.

That was last Saturday. Temps were going to 20deg so we were taking an extended break from the heat.

He looks like a true blue bird dog but truth be told he isn't as birdy as he should be. I spotted those two birds not him. We still had a good time nonetheless.
 
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