Hunting for real for the first time... which gun?

"...and maybe shooting something..." Any of 'em done the Hunter's Safety course? Particularly the 16 year old? There won't be any hunting for them if they haven't. Start here. http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/hunting/resident/education.html
Doesn't mean you can't go out where the bugs, mice and bears are though. Not likely to be many bugs during hunting season. Mice tend to look for some place warmish to spend the winter though. Yogi really isn't a problem. He's not stupid.
 
A few more bits of info....
I am the only one in the group with the cross dominant issue. Kid is gtg. I have been shooting left, cause it seems to work better even though I am right handed. I guess you could say I am equally bad with both hands :)

That was a good reminder about the CORE course sunray. I will make sure we all take the course, some of us again. Things like that are why I started looking so long before we are going.

Thank you all for your really in depth comments and advice. I really appreciate it.

Village Vixen.
 
And why is that?

I imagine that he suggested a detachable mag because it would be much easier for a novice shooter to deal with then having to go through the load and eject routine of a blind mag. I think it's good advice, and I would suggest at least something with a hinged floor plate. I'll also suggest the 30-06 as probably the best caliber choice, even though I don't own one and I hate it. :D

Now I'm just going to wait for Vixen to ask why I hate it ;)
 
I imagine that he suggested a detachable mag because it would be much easier for a novice shooter to deal with then having to go through the load and eject routine of a blind mag. I think it's good advice, and I would suggest at least something with a hinged floor plate. I'll also suggest the 30-06 as probably the best caliber choice, even though I don't own one and I hate it. :D

Now I'm just going to wait for Vixen to ask why I hate it ;)

I'll bite.... why do you hate it? :)

VV
 
Looking over the thread I think it's prudent to have a short mention of magazine types. In bolt action rifles these are normally hinged floor plates, detachable box magazines, and blind magazines.

My own experience has led me to a preference for hinged floor plates. This system is quick and safe to load and unload, and there is nothing to loose. A jam, even with a CRF action can be quickly cleared. The one hiccup with a blind magazine is that with powerful rifles, if the retaining latch is not strongly sprung, recoil of the first round could dump your remaining cartridges on the ground. The latch should be difficult to open when recoil is strong.

The detachable box magazine can be very good or very poor depending on the specific rifle. The DBM is great for the hunter who is in and out of a vehicle often, as the box can be simply pulled from the rifle and put in a pocket with no loss of ammo. The Lee Enfield has a very good magazine system, and misplacing the magazine at home is much more likely than loosing it in the field. The old Remington 788 had a poor magazine retaining system, although the straight line feed was very good. It was very easy to hit the mag release in the field and loose the magazine, and anyone who wishes to consider the DBM should consider how easy it is to release it. The cost of replacement Tikka magazines is outrgous, approaching 20% of the cost of the new rifle, and this also should also be considered when considering which system to purchase.

The blind magazine is a poor choice IMHO. Consider safety. It is not possible to unload the rifle without chambering live rounds, and often a push feed rifle cannot eject a round unless the bolt handle is turned down to allow the extractor to engage the cartridge rim. If a round does happen to jam, such as a double feed situation, you virtually have to take the rifle apart to clear it.
 
I'll bite.... why do you hate it? :)

VV

I knew you would.....:D Because the '06 is such a versatile caliber that I wouldn't have any reason to own a lot of the other rifles that are in my gunsafe. If I could only have one firearm in my safe, then I would choose an '06 - bar none. :)
 
I'm a CORE instructor in Prince George. There will be a CORE course here on the weekend of Aug 9/10 if you're interested. There's a small group of us who have been teaching the course together here for over 25 years. Lots of experience to draw on. If worse comes to worse, you and the kids can home study and challenge the course test up to about 2 weeks before your trip. Cost to challenge is set by the BC Gov't at $10. I do recommend you attend a full course, though.
 
I'm a CORE instructor in Prince George. There will be a CORE course here on the weekend of Aug 9/10 if you're interested. There's a small group of us who have been teaching the course together here for over 25 years. Lots of experience to draw on. If worse comes to worse, you and the kids can home study and challenge the course test up to about 2 weeks before your trip. Cost to challenge is set by the BC Gov't at $10. I do recommend you attend a full course, though.


THank you for the offer cessna172. I actually just came from the shop where I signed them both up for both the PAL and CORE. They will be taking them in August in Abbotsford. It will be a bit of a slog maybe for the younger one, but the older one will be fine. We will do home study as you suggested.


Now Boomer is taking about feed problems and disassembling guns in the bush. He is right..... this is high on my list of things to avoid while we are out on the land. I can clear feed problems with Slavex or 999 standing over my shoulder on my 9mm but in the bush.....don't need it. I will look for something like gitrdun suggests.

I saw a Marlin with a synthetic stock and scope for less than $500 bucks today too Geologist. Older kid wasn't with me and I didn't have this thread printed off so I was not ready to buy yet. Soon though. Very soon :D

Thanks again all.

Village Vixen
 
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