Hunting Grizzly with the 45-70

Camp Cook said:
I'll give you relevant when I was a teenager I read a book called "I Nuligak" a true story about an Eskimo living in the 1800's if I remember correctly.

He somehow acquired a rifle chambered in the new high powered round 22 Short.

He would shoot polar bears between the shoulder blades paralysing them worked better than trying to...
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When you head out on your .22 Short Polar bear hunt, I will come along as gunbearer/skinner and videographer... sounds like a million dollar video.
 
Camp Cook said:
I'll give you relevant when I was a teenager I read a book called "I Nuligak" a true story about an Eskimo living in the 1800's if I remember correctly.

He somehow acquired a rifle chambered in the new high powered round 22 Short.

He would shoot polar bears between the shoulder blades paralysing them worked better than trying to spear them.

Like the earlier post showed he had balls...

Edit to add = on my last grizzly hunt yes I had my 21" barreled 375RUM along as well but I mostly carried my single shot 21" barreled T/C Contender carbine chambered in 375JDJ = 260gr Accubonds @ 2300fps.

I would have aimed for a max 150 - 200 yards double lung shot.
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Very cool! That dude doesn't need this call -

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Arctic natives were known to have favored the 22 Hornet for hunting large marine mammals. Likely because it was economic, they could carry a lot more ammo and it worked for how they hunted which is up close. The 223 is also popular among them.
 
Gentlemen really..............

Taken with a Mathews Outback 70 # draw bow and Carbon Express arrows with a 125 gn conventional cut on contact razor head.........one arrow @ about 35 mtrs. Spot and stalk, not from a stand.........



Taken with a Mathews Safari 95# draw weight and Carbon Express 400s with 125 gn Sattelite conventional razor head, also not from a stand, shot in sock feet, at less than 20 mtrs from our tent at 06:00

 
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No back up of any kind with the grizzly, rifle was in the truck......but he never would have made it, if the need arose...........I, on the other hand, am not so foolish...........338 on hand.
 
Slamfire said:
Then it's a helluva bet the Grizzly will run away from the archer after being hit.
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You are thinking like a gunman... I've been bowhunting for 40 years. I have been within 20 yards of hundreds of biggame animals including 100+ blackbears at the shot with archery gear... the animals are rarely conscious of the hunters presence and react entirely differently than they do to a rifle shot... they skedaddle out of there and most often are not immediately aware of their injury. This to say, I believe that you are far safer in close proximity to a bear after an archery shot than you are after a rifle shot.

Douglas will be along to corroberate.

Edit... Douglas beat me to the punch.
 
c-fbmi said:
No back up of any kind with the grizzly, rifle was in the truck......but he never would have made it, if the need arose...........I, on the other hand, am not so foolish...........338 on hand.
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listen to the man ....

bow hunting anyway on some predators is good when you have cold blood ....
 
Camp Cook said:
He somehow acquired a rifle chambered in the new high powered round 22 Short.

He would shoot polar bears between the shoulder blades paralysing them worked better than trying to spear them.
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Curious how you would manage shot placement on a quadrupedal animal to hit it between the shoulder blades? Wouldn't you need to be elevated in some way? Considering the lack of trees up there, it just seems improbable.
 
9.3mauser said:
Curious how you would manage shot placement on a quadrupedal animal to hit it between the shoulder blades? Wouldn't you need to be elevated in some way? Considering the lack of trees up there, it just seems improbable.
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Almost certainly surrounded by dogs.
 
A between the shoulder blades shot would be very unlikely on any animal of that size unless it was laying on it's belly, maybe in a trap or snare, not moving. A .22 short ( or long rifle for that matter) will not break a grizzly's spine, even if the muzzle was held against it. A .357 mag with 158 gr jfp will not break a moose's neck at 20 paces ( proven personally). It's a good story, kind of like oral history, and we all know some people that can tell some good ones. It may be that if the event really did occur that a few details were left out, such as a previous shot or shots with a more powerful rifle, whether the bear was still alive when assaulted with this magical .22 short, maybe this was a cub? I don't for one minute believe that anyone successfully killed an adult polar bear, grizzly, or even black bear with a .22 short in the hump. The best you could do would be to p-$$ him off. But of course, none of this has anything to do with the original post requesting feedback as to the best bullet to use in a 45/70 for a grizzly hunt, it seems to have morphed into a general discussion about bear hunting, mostly by people who never have and probably never will hunt the big bears.
 
Ashcroft said:
A between the shoulder blades shot would be very unlikely on any animal of that size unless it was laying on it's belly, maybe in a trap or snare, not moving. A .22 short ( or long rifle for that matter) will not break a grizzly's spine, even if the muzzle was held against it. A .357 mag with 158 gr jfp will not break a moose's neck at 20 paces ( proven personally). It's a good story, kind of like oral history, and we all know some people that can tell some good ones. It may be that if the event really did occur that a few details were left out, such as a previous shot or shots with a more powerful rifle, whether the bear was still alive when assaulted with this magical .22 short, maybe this was a cub? I don't for one minute believe that anyone successfully killed an adult polar bear, grizzly, or even black bear with a .22 short in the hump. The best you could do would be to p-$$ him off. But of course, none of this has anything to do with the original post requesting feedback as to the best bullet to use in a 45/70 for a grizzly hunt, it seems to have morphed into a general discussion about bear hunting, mostly by people who never have and probably never will hunt the big bears.
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if we were doing what you wrote that means only a few can speak ...

btw our tag is still OTC and $25 for grizzly .... just got mine and 2 black bears. season starts in 2 weeks ....
 
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