Hunting Grizzly with the 45-70

dahs said:
Least favourite part of my summer work is topping up the bait barrels so fat American tourists can sit in the stand and try to arrow themselves a bear. I'm like a pizza boy showing up to a frat house party.
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Maybe the outdoorsmen/women that pay your mortgage and put food in your kids bellies deserve a little respect, if not appreciation.
 
dahs said:
Least favourite part of my summer work is topping up the bait barrels so fat American tourists can sit in the stand and try to arrow themselves a bear. I'm like a pizza boy showing up to a frat house party. I'm not sure they've built a rifle or bullet yet to carry that makes that a comfortable situation.
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Maybe I read this a little different?..... other than the fat comment (which is probably just truth) , I believe he's just mentioning its unnerving carrying bait through bear country.

But what do I know.
 
dahs said:
Least favourite part of my summer work is topping up the bait barrels so fat American tourists can sit in the stand and try to arrow themselves a bear. I'm like a pizza boy showing up to a frat house party. I'm not sure they've built a rifle or bullet yet to carry that makes that a comfortable situation.
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Actually, I always kind of envied a job like that. In fact, here in NB, you can get a Guide II license where you can guide for a non resident, but are not allowed to charge. So I used to do that for some American friends, and other friends, for free, I enjoyed it so much. Of course I hunted myself, but after I got mine, I'd keep on baiting for them, as that was the best part in some ways. As far as what to carry for protection, sometimes I carried a gun to the bait, and other times I didn't bother. Probably it wasn't smart to go without a gun, but I'm still alive. If you make a bit of noise going in to the bait, the black bears will usually scoot out of sight, or almost so, while you are there. Even if they weren't at the bait, I'd kick the barrel (used metal barrels) a few times to make a drum sound, then stand back about 40 yards, and they would show up usually in a few minutes. Watching them and learning their schedule is the best part really.
 
medvedqc said:
a mark V in .340 ready for polar bear hunting conditions, Doug...
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Strip the bolt and degrease it inside and out, degrease the bolt lug recesses in the receiver, and spray out the trigger group with brake clean. Ensure your sling and sling attachments are up to heavy use, and take a role of electrical tape for covering the muzzle. Take a sectioned cleaning rod with a jag and a few patches. If your rifle doesn't have iron sights, taking a second scope in QD rings isn't the worst idea. Pack your ammo and other essential gear in more than one bag; northern airlines sometimes neglect to get all the bags on the same flight; finding .340 ammo in an arctic hamlet is a nonstarter.
 
dahs said:
Least favourite part of my summer work is topping up the bait barrels so fat American tourists can sit in the stand and try to arrow themselves a bear. I'm like a pizza boy showing up to a frat house party. I'm not sure they've built a rifle or bullet yet to carry that makes that a comfortable situation.
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My info is a bit dated but its a bit of fake news that large amounts of money trickle down to the working people..My info is a bit dated but $100 a day for a guide and 3-4 months a year. Can any of you live on that???
They do make tips only if given??
Cooks , skinners? probably the same
 
GUB said:
My info is a bit dated but its a bit of fake news that large amounts of money trickle down to the working people..My info is a bit dated but $100 a day for a guide and 3-4 months a year. Can any of you live on that???
They do make tips only if given??
Cooks , skinners? probably the same
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What's fake news is that outfitters are rolling in it. :) My head guide took home much more than I did as the outfitter the last two years, and he doesn't have to take the risk and lay out a BC house's cost in terriitory and equipment. I have payments on a plane, ocean boat, river boat, guide territory, and none of it will turn a profit for likely ten or twenty years over its initial investment. This is no sob story I love what we're doing.

But if you're in it to make money you're in it for the wrong reasons, the vast majority of outfitters I know have to keep a day job and outfit for the love of it. If you're lucky and smart you might be able to make an ok living, but there are no benefits, sick days, or pension, and there's a huge amount of risk politically and physically. Guiding is the smarter way to do it, but I'm one of the misguided folks that sees life value in bouncing around in your own plane and boats even if you're paying for it dearly. My aim is to cover my costs, which are enormous, and enjoy this time of my life.
 
Boomer said:
Strip the bolt and degrease it inside and out, degrease the bolt lug recesses in the receiver, and spray out the trigger group with brake clean. Ensure your sling and sling attachments are up to heavy use, and take a role of electrical tape for covering the muzzle. Take a sectioned cleaning rod with a jag and a few patches. If your rifle doesn't have iron sights, taking a second scope in QD rings isn't the worst idea. Pack your ammo and other essential gear in more than one bag; northern airlines sometimes neglect to get all the bags on the same flight; finding .340 ammo in an arctic hamlet is a nonstarter.
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thank you Mike.

so nothing different than our winter hunt ... wasnt sure.
 
hoytcanon said:
Maybe the outdoorsmen/women that pay your mortgage and put food in your kids bellies deserve a little respect, if not appreciation.
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It was said with humour. They're generally great people. Usually good ole boys from Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota. They're almost honourary Canadians.

The pizza boy comment refers to me. The frat house comment refers to the bears.

I love what I do. I'm a pilot, not a guide. But there's only so much flying to be done in a day and the rest is doing odd little jobs to keep everything going smoothly. Actually any outfitter I've ever worked for, I'd say flying was only about 20% of my workload IF that.
 
The Buffalo Bore 430 grain hard cast lead factory round will drop anything in North America within 50 yards from a Marlin Guide Gun.
1925 fps, 3540 ft-lbs.
Owned a stainless model 1895GS for a couple of years.
 
c-fbmi said:
For those of you who have never seen the Inuit hunt polar bear and think it is impossible to place a 22 between the shoulder blades, allow me to explain. When the Inuit see a bear they want, they turn the dogs loose on them. The dogs surround the bear and attempt to bite the testicles, the bear will sit to protect his balls and wheel around on his ass to fight the dogs. The Inuit them move in and spine the bear from behind at very close range while the bear is 100% occupied with the dogs. I have no doubt that even a 22 short can at least temporarily incapacitate the bear with a spine shot from a few meters.
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I'd freeze a big ball of the pure BS being slung on this thread load it into a 70 cal Brown Bess, dump in 1/2 pound of ffg and let fly. ;)
 
torontogungal said:
I'd freeze a big ball of the pure BS being slung on this thread load it into a 70 cal Brown Bess, dump in 1/2 pound of ffg and let fly. ;)
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They used to kill them with spears, or maybe more properly with a lance while distracted by dogs, so why not a rifle?
 
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