Hunting Grizzly with the 45-70

Camp Cook said:
Everyone is having fun with my mistake it was blatant can't believe that I didn't catch it myself I even reread the post and didn't see it...

Its all good humour at least I took that way hope others have enough backbone to take it too...

Ardent you know you are living my dream so obviously no I am not...
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It was the crack comments that were offside, and served no purpose other than to call you into question, hence the uproar.
Completely unnecessary.
Your humour is admirable, as is your thick hide.

R.
 
Rman said:
Slow day on the Wet Coast?
Your defense of the clueless is admirable...If not misguided, which is very odd for a guide who obviously spots clues for living?
Specific experience with the cartridge in question, or not, the very simple and quite honest mistake was blatant. Given the level of "experience" touted, it should have just been treated as such from the get go.
There was no need to call into the question the level of the load, or to make a statement about losing fingers, which would suggest that the Googler was in fact run to verify that the mistaken velocity was excessive?
Just another case of trying to be more right, at someone else's expense.

Not really sure why your goat happens to here, but you can certainly have it back.



R.
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It is a nice slow rainy sunday, but not get deeper into a semantics argument slow.

Cam I'm ribbing you all good, it's amusing how much legs this part of the battle has enjoyed. And don't worry the dream comes with lots of stress and frustrations. ;)
 
This threat has taught me a lot.
It has taught me that :
A 45/70 is an inadequate grizzly round/and that it's entirely adequate
The super fast magnums are revered by some/disliked by others
There is no such thing as recoil/Heavy recoil is a negative

Very confusing.

Very interesting thread, especially since some heavy hitters have chimed in. There are a few here that need to remember that just because you've traveled the world with big money and knocked down some incredible animals, your insight is counterintuitive to a joe hunter who feels the 300 win is a heavy hitter to his shoulder.
 
Rman said:
It was the crack comments that were offside, and served no purpose other than to call you into question, hence the uproar.
Completely unnecessary.
Your humour is admirable, as is your thick hide.

R.
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Maybe the "8" was speculative... like the "two" grizzlies...
 
Rman said:
It was the crack comments that were offside, and served no purpose other than to call you into question, hence the uproar.
Completely unnecessary.
Your humour is admirable, as is your thick hide.

R.
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Relax. You're turning a perfectly good dogpile into something that it doesn't have to be. Camp can take care of himself...especially if he thought we were seriously going after him.
 
Jesus..... some of you guys would make for poor company in a hunt camp.....

I had six nutz over this last weekend for a snow goose hunt and every one of us took a ribbing at one time or another for misspeaking etc..... and that includes Hoyt..... we all took it in stride and had a great time.....

Don't take life so serious... you aren't getting out alive anyways....
 
GUB said:
So there is no sub species difference between coastal or interior bears. There use to be some big ones around the Big White area?
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Exact same species, coastal bears are just twice as heavy, more food, less travel. Inland bears are more like a giant wolverine, and coastals a giant wild boar. Just like moose, a Shiras from the lower 48 and an Alaska-Yukon are the same species.
 
leveractionjunkie said:
So is a 45/70 at BP velocities with cast bullets viable for grizzlies in the interior? Or? Would a guy be better off with a British made turn of the century double rifle?

Coastal bears?
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Yep, but the hunter needs to be a sure shot and be good on the stalk or in positioning of the stand or blind. Being totally confident of ones rifle and load goes a fair way to ensure success along with experience in grizzly hunting. Blundering into grizz territory can make for at the least, not seeing a bear or at the most intense, having a bear coming straight outta the bush at ye at mere yds. or feet.
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SHELL SHUCKER said:
Yep, but the hunter needs to be a sure shot and be good on the stalk or in positioning of the stand or blind. Being totally confident of ones rifle and load goes a fair way to ensure success along with experience in grizzly hunting. Blundering into grizz territory can make for at the least, not seeing a bear or at the most intense, having a bear coming straight outta the bush at ye at mere yds. or feet.
:sok2
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Good point. Best to be well practiced. 10rnds a day min at model bear charging the shooter for 3months (except on the sabbath). Anything else is Tom foolery, and boardering on heinous malfeasance


Again :)
 
Ardent said:
Exact same species, coastal bears are just twice as heavy, more food, less travel. Inland bears are more like a giant wolverine, and coastals a giant wild boar. Just like moose, a Shiras from the lower 48 and an Alaska-Yukon are the same species.
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I would disagree with you on the size of the inland bears. The ones around Big White, Greystokes and along the 201 are a lot bigger then what you think.
 
leveractionjunkie said:
I can see that. Stainless for the wet coast. But is the 30-06 really in the same league as the 8x57m? Or the 9.3x57m? I mean I thought you guided?

:)
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Exact same league, doppelgängers on game.

GUB said:
I would disagree with you on the size of the inland bears. The ones around Big White, Greystokes and along the 201 are a lot bigger then what you think.
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Mostly perception. Your very large inland Grizzly is 500-600lbs, they look like 1,000. Your very large coastal is 800-1,000, and looks like a Volkswagen.
 
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