Hunting on Indian reserve?

I was under the impression treaty hunting was again allowed at night with the aid of lights...if one so chose to operate in such a manner.

You're right, as long as there's no safety concern. I guess that means it's OK as long as they don't jacklight a deer off your deck.

In my previous post,I was referring more to the laws south of the border and the "diplomatic immunity" statement.
 
Yes Sir we are allowed, the only issue would be that you get approval for the band (not a issue, if you have someone to vouch for you)

and the best part is the gifted meat for all you help.

Great, thanks.
But from other posts, my understanding is that they are not allowed to perform any commercial acts. Such as be a guide a charge a fee for the hunt.
 
I was told that hunting on indian reserve is open all year round that they are not governed by the MNR hunting regulation. Is it true?

I have taken my non-native friends hunting on the rez (Six Nations), no problem, Ontario has no jursdiction re hunting and fishing as far as we are concerned. MNR never steps foot on the reserve unless invited (COs are never invited) so no need to worry about them. Native tradition is all about sharing as mentioned above.

In theory the season is open all year, however I would not go hunting with you out of our traditional seasons. Deer for example, 3rd frost, then we start looking, if they still have their summer coat, no hunting. Winter coat or mostly winter coat, fine. We stop at Christmas. No need to chase pregnant does around and the bucks will have a hard enough time as it is making it throught the winter. If you don't have your feed of deer in the freezer by Dec you are a poor hunter.

We also hunt with non-native hunters off the reserve, they follow their rules, we follow ours. Good times had by all.
 
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these right are are honored until all of our people are no longer here. if this burns your a$$, i wonder what you will think when you find out we don't pay taxes.
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What burns my a$$ as you put it is inequality. Real simple, if things are unfair, if some people have more rights than others you are going to have trouble. Doesn't matter how things are unbalanced, unbalanced is unbalanced.

I understand why you are defensive about your special rights, so were the slave owners of the old south. People are always protective of thier special interests, that doesn't make wrong right.

Oh by the way, as far as I can tell none of my ancestors ever gave anyone a blanket with small pox.

KTK
 
http://www.gov.mb.ca/conservation/wildlife/hunting/firstnations.html

The Rights and Responsibilities
of First Nations People


The Natural Resources Transfer Agreement (1930), which forms part of the Constitution Act (1982), provides that Indian people have the right to hunt.
This includes harvesting for food or traditional ceremonial purposes for personal or family use, or for other First Nations persons. Meat may be shared with non-status family members living in the same home.
Non-Indian people may accompany Indian people that are hunting, but may not help them to exercise their hunting rights. For example, a non-Indian person may not assist an Indian hunter by shooting his game, carrying a gun, searching for or flushing game, or be in possession of any meat, or animal parts taken under status Indian hunting rights. They can, however, assist in retrieval of game or transporting of game while accompanying an Indian person. Similarly, licensed hunters can be accompanied by status Indians, but each may only exercise the rights accorded to them individually.

Recognizing the Treaty and Constitutional rights of Indian people, Manitoba Conservation considers that status Indian hunters:


  • do not require licences;
  • are not restricted to specific seasons;
  • are not restricted to bag limits; and
  • are not subject to equipment restrictions such as the use of off-road vehicles.

Status Indians generally have right to access to hunt for food within:


  • Indian Reserves, Wildlife Management Areas, Provincial Forests, areas of Provincial Parks where licensed hunting is permitted, unoccupied Crown lands, and other Crown lands where licensed hunting or trapping is permitted;
  • Private land with the permission of the landowner or occupant; and
  • Federal lands, such as community pastures and CFB Shilo, when such lands are opened to the public for hunting, or with the permission of the Pasture Manager or Base Commander.
No person (status or non-status) may hunt within:

  • Riding Mountain National Park, Birds Hill Provincial Park, Beaudry Provincial Park or Pembina Valley Provincial Park;
  • Areas of provincial parks closed to all hunting;
  • Refuges (for the species protected) and most Ecological Reserves; and
  • Areas closed to all persons for specific conservation reasons.
Restrictions that are intended for conservation and safety purposes apply to both status Indians and licensed hunters.

Status Indians may not:

  • hunt protected wildlife for which all hunting is prohibited, such as eagles, hawks, owls and polar bears;
  • waste or abandon wildlife;
  • use or possess lead shot while hunting waterfowl;
  • sell, trade, barter or give away the meat or any part (e.g. antlers) of a wild animal taken under status Indian hunting rights, except that food may be given to another Indian person;
  • use hunting methods that are careless, unsafe or dangerous;
  • discharge a rifle or shotgun at night where it is dangerous to do so;
  • hunt from a Provincial Road or Provincial Trunk Highway, or discharge a bow or firearm from such a road or highway, or shoot along or across such a road or highway (including the road allowance);
  • discharge a centrefire rifle, muzzle-loading firearm or shotgun using a slug from a public road within a municipality or local government district, or shoot along or across such a road; and
  • carry a loaded firearm in a vehicle or discharge a firearm from a vehicle.

It is also recommended that hunters:


  • wear hunter orange clothes when hunting;
  • carry the federally issued Certificate of Indian Status to help a Natural Resource Officer determine that they are entitled to exercise the right to hunt for food; and
  • take the Hunter and Firearm Safety Training Course.
For more detailed information, please contact the nearest Manitoba Conservation office, or telephone (204) 945-6784 in Winnipeg, 1-800-214-6497 outside Winnipeg or see (link opens in new browser window) First Nations Rights and Responsibilities
 
sell, trade, barter or give away the meat or any part (e.g. antlers) of a wild animal taken under status Indian hunting rights, except that food may be given to another Indian person;
Nine, have you witnessed this part of the act being violated?;)
 
Nine, have you witnessed this part of the act being violated?;)


GASP! "Well, I never!"

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Last year I witnessed a native guy coming out of our camp road with 4 adult moose in the back of his truck 2 weeks before our season opened. Now I can't say he didn't have more people back at his camp or if he was feeding grandma, the kids, uncles and cousins but that seemed to be a bit to gluttonous for my taste.

Who am I though.

The spring bear hunt being canceled by the slimy liberals just to satisfy the anti's doesn't even raise an ear because they live down south yet do they even consider the fact that those bears that are overpopulating up here in the north have any effect on moose populations because they'll follow a cow around for days waiting for her to drop that calf. Yet there are no limitations on the natives.

It boggles my mind that the bears can kill off a huge amount of calfs every spring and yet nothing is done about the harvest in the fall. I'm not saying natives are in any way at fault because they're just exercising their rights but really.....something has to be done or there won't be any moose left for anyone in the future.

I can remember when I was a kid my dad and uncles could all buy a tag and shoot whatever ### moose they wanted, now were putting in for calf tags.....makes no sense.
 
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