hunting on private land

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Just listing to CRR and a member here wrote in that he believes that there should either be NO hunting on private land OR that ANYONE should be allowed to hunt on private land. Their idea was that the people may own the land but they don't own the animals.

Just wondering if anyone else feels this way as this member and why do they think this?
 
Bull####, if I own land (I don't) I have every right to control who comes or goes on my land.

As to "Not owning the animals" well prehaps not, but hunters on my land still have to abide by standard MNR regulations do they not?

My guess? This was written by someone who can't get permission to hunt on Private land for whatever reason and feels that because of his inablity to hunt private land no one else should be allowed to either.
 
Tyke said:
Private Land is Private Land..... if you are there without permission aren't you trespassing?

Seems pretty simple to me.
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This person wasnt talking about trespassing, I think they were more wishing it was a law they you had to allow hunters onto your property?

Im not sure so maybe the member will pop in and give their views on the subject.

I own property myself and I also can hunt on my dad's ranch, Im currently in talks with hunting on two other ranches as well and being the only person to hunt on either of those.
 
Technically, the state owns the animals. And by purchasing of the tag, the State transfers ownership of the animal, by method of the cull.

A person cannot stop you from hunting on their private land. They can, however stop you from accessing this same land. The prosecution would be trespassing, not poaching.
 
That sounds sort of like a company owning some land to open a mine, but everyone is entitled to the diamonds/gold held under that ground...

I think it's BS... Private land is private land. If they let anyone hunt on anyone elses private land, well I want to use their toilet, and eat the food out of their fridge. :D
 
Bulls**t, if I own land (I don't) I have every right to control who comes or goes on my land.
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unfortunatley you do not have that right. You own the land to the depth you can till and as tall as the grass grows. Sure there are tresspass regualtions which help give you some privacy but if I want to mine, drill, put a freeway, pipeline, hydro corridor, flight path etc through your domain there is nothing you can do about it. If I am a duck or any number of other species I will also be able to ignore your wishes and take priority access/occupancy. (you rank just a bit lower then the frog on some federal list LOL)
You own one small slice of a big pie which is the land you hold 'title' on. You may be able to turn away hunters/lookyloos and ATVers by conforming to a strict protocol for doing so but do not kid yourself into thinking you are doing anything other then renting the surface from the crown for the cost of your taxes.

Private land is not private you just have priority on a narrow range of uses.
 
The hunting laws everywhere I have hunted are clear as a bell, you can not hunt on private land without permission. When I was living in the Kootenay region of BC this wasn't an issue as there is so much amazing crown land where we could come and go as we please. Where I now live in Alberta it does feel like Europe at times; big land owners seem to control access to every square foot of hunting land. So it's a bummer out here to have to constantly track down land owners, many of whom are fed up with "hunters" tresspassing and cutting fences. As often as not I get a lecture on how "you hunters are always running over my fences". Yes, we Canadians own the animals, but they reside on private land, so we need permission to go get them.
 
I could be mistaken, but I believe that in certain states, the permission to hunt is implied unless the property has specifically been posted.
 
To a certain extent, I can understand where your friend is coming from, even if I don't agree with him. We may "own" the land, but by a curiously North American traditition we don't own the animals on it. We also don't own the air above it, any water laying on it, probably don't own the mineral rights, and if you quit paying your taxes for a couple of minutes you might have reason to question whether you own anything at all. There's 1000 regulations telling you what you can't or must do on the land you "own". Let someone with more money and a bigger plan want the property you "own" and you'll be out on your ass so fast that you'll spin yourself right into the ground.
Against the backdrop of a system that doesn't make much sense, his idea isn't much more stupid than the stupid system as it exists now. You could even make an arguement that if you can't own the sky, the ocean, the lakes, rivers, minerals and animals, what sort of mental gymnastics do you have to go through to explain the concept of owning dirt?
Ask you friend if he would prefer the more common worldwide system where the landowner owns everything, and you have to pay to hunt on his land, pay to shoot animals, only to find out that he still owns "your" game after you shoot it and if you want the meat you have to buy that too.Try to explain that you own that animal just as much as he does, and you will be met with an uncomprehending look and probably a gun.
Hunting access looks one heck of a lot different depending on which side of the fence you're standing on. I've hunted on crown land, private land with permission, private land my family hacked out of the wilderness, private land that I traded large chunks of my life for and bought instead of its equilivant in toys, gold or Italian sports cars. I've also hunted "national land" and paid some 3rd world dictator for the privilige.
The view is different from every angle. Your friend is looking for a simple answer that doesn't exist, and no doubt would benefit from personally. Let him go home and thank the good lord for how good he already has it, and how much of what he has he gets for nothing.

rant, venting and musing over.;)
 
you can not hunt on private land without permission
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Not true in BC. Unless it is cultivated, fenced, bounded by water, has livestock at large, or is properly posted you may hunt there which seems fair.

IMHO there is usually alot more legally huntable land out there then most people realize. ( i luckily have no alberta experience to draw on though)

many of whom are fed up with "hunters" tresspassing and cutting fences. As often as not I get a lecture on how "you hunters are always running over my fences".
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The above are serious crimes and the smart landowner will grant access permission to a couple hunters to ward the miscreants off. They should not be fed up with 'hunters' they should be fed up with 'crimminals'. Allow a responsible hunter access and you get a free mall cop in the bargain.
 
drache said:
Just listing to CRR and a member here wrote in that he believes that there should either be NO hunting on private land OR that ANYONE should be allowed to hunt on private land. Their idea was that the people may own the land but they don't own the animals.

Just wondering if anyone else feels this way as this member and why do they think this?
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Nobody owns the Animals that's we apply or buy tags for the ones we want to hunt....crown or private land...its irrelevant.

I do agree the the guy is just letting out some sour grapes from not having access to land he wants to hunt on.

I do know some private land owners who believe they own the animals but I wont' go there nor do I agree.
 
seeing as how the Crown owns the game animals...
I often wondered where to send the bill for all the alfalfa the deer eat on my hay fields every year..?
I charge the owners of the cattle I pasture...
 
if a farmer owns the land he has a say in who comes and goes ,but if that same farmer is looking for moneys from crop damage from tax payers then he best be letting guys hunt his land .
 
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